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anyone have xlr splitters, xlr on one side and 2 xlr's on the other side, if so, bring them tonite
muggsy
- Tuesday, December 31, 2002 at 16:02:52 (EST)
i like it when they add effects into the mix... makes those SBD tapes sound like they have a little more life to em'
PhunkyZen
- Tuesday, December 31, 2002 at 09:09:46 (EST)
echoes like for effect,or echoes for acoustics? ........
bfree
- Tuesday, December 31, 2002 at 01:36:39 (EST)
Echoes/Back Porch for an encore...hehe.
bfree
- Monday, December 30, 2002 at 21:40:50 (EST)
spacey
ooooh
- Monday, December 30, 2002 at 19:06:43 (EST)
lots of echo on the vocals lately
??
- Monday, December 30, 2002 at 17:34:22 (EST)
nope, we lost one channel completely
muggs
- Monday, December 30, 2002 at 15:26:11 (EST)
Wait, the SBD guy comes to every show? Wow, when did that start ;)
kbooth
- Monday, December 30, 2002 at 14:38:35 (EST)
you're kidding.costa at every show??...but seriously,I could use a good solid dose of enthusiasm.Nye just isn't creaming it for me.I feel peaked out....Help!
bfree
- Monday, December 30, 2002 at 13:55:12 (EST)
A mono mix should still come across both channels, you are just getting the samet thing in each channel instead of a stereo mix
kbooth
- Monday, December 30, 2002 at 13:52:26 (EST)
actually hitting that mono thing didn't ruin it for us, i checked after the show, when house music was playing out of the p.a., i hit the mono button and nothing changed, it's the internal doings in that line, costa did nothing wrong, we are subject to the whims of that sbd, and bfree, costa would be the natural to bring it with him since he's the sound guy and is at every show
muggs
- Monday, December 30, 2002 at 13:49:26 (EST)
Muggs, I got your Albany show, will be bringing it to the Webster tomorrow night, bring my Hartford, see you there
kbooth
- Monday, December 30, 2002 at 13:37:39 (EST)
i think the rational behind costa bringing it is that the soundman usually shows up to every show.
PhunkyZen
- Monday, December 30, 2002 at 12:48:29 (EST)
it is shady... last show there costa accidentally hit the mono button for the headphone out.. making everyone lose a channel. haha it's funny how we ran around like a chicken with our head cut off before trying to check the simplest problem.
PhunkyZen
- Monday, December 30, 2002 at 12:47:30 (EST)
I will most likely have 4 digital patches available out of my rig on NYE. Sounds like the webster needs a new SBD, going out of the headphone jack? That sounds shaddy.
kbooth
- Monday, December 30, 2002 at 12:06:31 (EST)
I don't see why costa should have to worry about bringing it to shows.Why make more qualifiers for this thing to happen? nespot?
bfree
- Monday, December 30, 2002 at 10:39:43 (EST)
it sounds like costa is onto something.cool.
bfree
xlrville is kind, - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 10:31:55 (EST)
taperjones does not have a patchbay, as far as taking up a collection on new years, i need to talk to costa first and see if it's okay with him and if he'll lug it around (well it's small so lug may not be the proper word) every show, let me tell you though, that sbd at the websta is crapola, the matrix out doesn't work, so we've been using the headphone jacks, and as you know, we lost a channel at the beginning of the 2nd set, anything can happen with that sbd, if we use the headphone jack again we may or may not come out with a flawless tape, it's a crapshoot, i know the esteemed kbooth will be bringing his top notch rig and i would strongly suggest that some of you patch out of him cuz we know his will come out fine, and if by chance the sbd comes out okay then rest assured, it will be made available to any taper who uses mics this time around, i talked to costa the other day about this, and he asked me to pick up a pair of xlr y cables, xlr splitters actually, he's got an idea, but once again, i strongly suggest a few of you do the audience thing, that way you'll be assured of a clean copy
muggs
- Monday, December 30, 2002 at 09:39:11 (EST)
no response,at least not the one I hoped for.I'd throw in a twenty,but no one is sporting an offer.....
bfree
- Monday, December 30, 2002 at 01:47:17 (EST)
All talk and no action
kbooth
- Sunday, December 29, 2002 at 20:39:36 (EST)
No comments on the other patchbay eh?....why talk about getting one if one already is available? ...contribute to Taperjones,he has one,maybe it will show up.Start talking donations.PZ,why not email those interested to take up a collection,then approach Taper so he can recoup his investment.Sounds fair to me.
bfree
- Sunday, December 29, 2002 at 12:16:31 (EST)
hey muggs.. post again if you're serious about doing a collection on NYE. trying to budget getting my rig going. danks!
PhunkyZen
- Friday, December 27, 2002 at 20:11:23 (EST)
Hey guys, if you decide to do the patchbay thing, I would contribute some money fo' sho', lord knows so many great recordings have made their way to me and all my friends from all of you some way or another...peace!
Tans (mtansley@mail.com)
- Friday, December 27, 2002 at 18:55:38 (EST)
So who is going to be at NYE doing some taping?
kbooth
- Friday, December 27, 2002 at 16:53:10 (EST)
If you are only getting one cap for the time being, get the cards or hypers. Cards are usually best outdoors up close, or in a good acoustic envrionment. Hypers are better for the Taper section or in a shitty sounding room. Omni's you only want to use upclose in a great sounding room with little crowd noise. Start with the cards, they sound decent in even bad sounding places if you use them right and can get close.
kbooth
- Thursday, December 26, 2002 at 11:59:30 (EST)
although i should get those other caps.. what are better.. i think i have cards. but i can get hyper and omni. man, i'm so clueless about this shit!
PhunkyZen
- Thursday, December 26, 2002 at 11:03:04 (EST)
what do you think of the AD-20 A/d? For the cost it seems like i could kill two birds with one stone since its a preamp and A/d. Might need to wait another few weeks to get it up and runing to save the extra $150 or so but it might be worth it.
PhunkyZen
- Thursday, December 26, 2002 at 11:02:24 (EST)
I agree muggs, I give you credit for trying to solve the problem, most people would rather just bitch about it. Phunkey, those are some very good mics for the money. You will make some nice recordings, JRob will not be able to tape on NYE, so if you want to borrow my V2 for NYE so you can tape let me know.
kbooth
- Thursday, December 26, 2002 at 10:42:03 (EST)
i'm sitting here wondering what i did to justify prickle claiming i have an attidude and giving me grief about my non-wednesday shows???? all i'm trying to do is solve the taping issue's we collectively have, anybody else see anything wrong with that?
muggs
- Thursday, December 26, 2002 at 09:55:21 (EST)
i got a pair Oktava mc012's .. i'll try them out and see how they do. can't complain for free ya know :) i'm basically just going to get whatever to get it up and running.. then upgrade stuff as i can afford it.
PhunkyZen
- Thursday, December 26, 2002 at 09:37:52 (EST)
Guys! First of all, Happy Holidaze....Secondly, I was a contributer to the new "patchbay" that the New Orleans Radiator's have. As some of you know, they were ripped off (Ryder Truck with ALL their equipment!) in New Orleans some time back. Alot of people contributed monitarily to the band in some ways and one of those ways was a replacement patchbay. Ken Samuels (their sound manager) hooked us up with a new patchbay that we all helped out on. The patchbay is open to "Whomever" chooses to tape (first come/first serve). Taping to me, is one of the main reasons I attend shows. It's great to bring home the "memory" of the show etc...It's also a pleasure being able to trade and inturn, turn-on new people to the music. Just remember that we are fortunate to have these bands and they are sometimes fortunate they have us! Patchbay's allow us to "spread the wealth" in that if someone has a problem, others can backup 'em up with a clean copy......Cheers, stagger.
Stagger Lee (radiators@patchbay.com)
Happytown, USA - Thursday, December 26, 2002 at 09:06:33 (EST)
A matrix would be cool, if he could do it on the spot even better, I can run you a line out to the mixer and still tape the AUD I want, would be cool if we could pull that off, my only worry is the time delay and phase issues, have to get pretty close to eliminate that problem
kbooth
- Wednesday, December 25, 2002 at 13:10:25 (EST)
so what mics did you get for xmas?
kbooth
- Wednesday, December 25, 2002 at 12:55:27 (EST)
hey Taper,maybe because they are not sure of the reaction they are gonna get...one of those 'words don't do justice to the situation' kinda things.So have you tried out the patchbay yet? I haven't seen it at any shows that I have been to....
bfree
- Wednesday, December 25, 2002 at 12:25:51 (EST)
kbooth maybe we can try a matrix on NYE.. I was debating getting one of those bherringer mixing boards to use as a preamp also.
PhunkyZen
- Wednesday, December 25, 2002 at 12:23:16 (EST)
merry xmas all! got my mics for xmas! now the tough decision.. get my stand.. cables.. preamp.. a/d yada yada yada.. or get an oade active 7pin and an ecocharge battery first.. i need it all. haha maybe i'll hit the powerball! someone bought me 2 tickets. well.. have a grate day!
PhunkyZen
- Wednesday, December 25, 2002 at 12:11:41 (EST)
why do people comment and then dont sign there name...
TaperJones
- Wednesday, December 25, 2002 at 11:52:21 (EST)
kbooth,i think thats a great idea....pickle,don't give in to bs from people who only care about themselves,or have become jaded about taping..they succeed in ruining it for others,and rub off on us!!!
bfree
- Wednesday, December 25, 2002 at 01:20:32 (EST)
Depending on where I can set up, maybe someone that get's a good board recording would like to try a matrix. I plan on trying out my new mk4 cardoid caps on NYE since the webster has decent acoustics and so I can pick up a little more ambience than my hypers do
kbooth
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 22:38:48 (EST)
Wow, things have gotten ugly in here. Pickle, I understand your frustration when people that don't even give you blanks bitch about not getting their show soon enought. Same kind of person that comes up to me when I am setting up my rig if I will sell them a copy of the show. You run into those people from time to time, don't let it get you down or make you stop spreading the music. I think people need to refocus in here and see that all muggs and others are trying to do is get things set up so many people can get a HQ recording of the show. I think getting something like that going would be sweet. While I don't tape from the SBD any more, I still hang with you guys and have fun, that's the key point here, having fun, if you have stopped having fun then it's time to stop taping. Happy Holidays all, see you guys at the Webster on NYE, if any one wants an AUD patch just let me know, I think AUD's on NYE are extra special.
kbooth
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 22:32:26 (EST)
So, within minutes of that last post, I get an email from someone bitchin that they have not received CD's from me from me from a show 3 weeks ago. Now this person never gave me blanks or postage, and they have the nerve to bitch at me??? Let me get this right. I have take the time out of my DAT and burner decks, pay for blanks and postage, (all durning a time that is busy enough with the holidays, let alone starting my own business), and then have to get emails like the one I just got? Well, I tell you one thing, I am DONE trying to help out ANYONE!!! I have spent 8 years of my time and money to help people, and this is the thanks I get......NO MORE!! I have built the trust of alot of folks to be able to archive and listen to shit that still blows my mind. And I will continue to archive and cherish all I get, but that is where it will end! So, the next time you want to hear something like an El Buho set, or a west coast show, you are gonna have to be the one who spends hundreds of dollars on airfare and hotels to go get it. Thank you sooooo much, and merry Christmas!
Pickle
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 21:27:42 (EST)
you are so correct...some people have jobs and a home and can't make all the shows, and sk feels that he can rag on someone who can't make the shows cause of that. And you want to talk about decks?? yes, I have been lucky enough to have the "use" of a Tascam or two, and I share spare decks that i have around (just ask someone one this board), but at least I don't have an "attiude" about it. so, how many tapes how you gotten from me through out the years?? On "MY" decks that I have spent thousands of dollars on??
Pickle
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 20:52:07 (EST)
pickle, some people have real jobs and have to work during the week , those are the same people who own there own tape deck, and actually tape the show themselves.. KABOOM.. Merry XMass buddy
why zass
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 20:13:46 (EST)
i'm glad i don't know what all the inner office politics bullshit is about but the splitter box sounds like a good idea Regarding the past- ive taped at shows when a channel has disappeared and sure it sucks but when a bunch of people get together to tape "things" can go wrong. if the splitter box can reduce error or provide a more pure line then great i would contribute, i couldn't do much maybe $20 but only because i tape. RRRRRRAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
tuck
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 19:11:57 (EST)
I think Creek could do 'the muggsy jam',don't you? Kinda like the 'spinach jam'?!?!?
heheheheh!
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 18:08:33 (EST)
This coming from someone who NEVER made a Wednesday gig this year, and god forbid that 'another' band that makes sk's head as big is this world is playing, he will probably be there!
Pickle
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 15:05:26 (EST)
SK, could you have alittle more of an attiude please?
Pickle
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 15:03:27 (EST)
Well Taper,how does it work?
*
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 14:21:44 (EST)
i think it was $189 plus tax and shipping, and we should add 6 splitters onto that and whatever connection we'll need out of the sbd, total cost i would think would be about $250, i'll talk it over with costa on new years, see if he'll want to carry it around to every show
muggs
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 13:52:08 (EST)
that sounds like a good idea muggs.. they are only what.. $150? a friend of mine was talking about splitting one with me too. maybe we can chain more than one together. but as you said.. 12 outs should be more than enough for a "regular" creek show.. And all those MD's can chain off each other since they all flip at the same time anyway.
PhunkyZen
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 13:37:21 (EST)
i have no way of knowing that TJ, besides, this would be for people that actually come out and see the band
muggs
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 13:26:32 (EST)
...hey muggs...remember i already invested $140 into a patchbay...hey pickle...can ya help me get in touch with him???
TaperJones (TaperJones@aol.com)
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 13:24:30 (EST)
happy holidays tapers
BUZZ
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 13:14:55 (EST)
well i spoke to the company that manufactures that patchbay, and here's the link if anyone wants to check it out: www.markertek.com..................we're looking at the Patchbox Stereo Output Multiplier, it's passive, meaning no power is needed, what we'd do with this is use whatever we're coming out of the sbd with, be it xlr's rca's 1/4 inch would go into the 1/4 inch inputs, we would not use the balanced outputs as this is for professional machines, we'd use the 6 rca unbalanced outputs for consumer equipment. i explained to the dude i talked to there how we do it now and if there's a mini-plug not in tightly or plugged into the headphone jack, everyone loses a channel, he said this would not happen with this box, as there are only 6 outputs and we usually have more tapers, i would suggest putting good splitters in every output, thus creating 12 outs, this is usually enough and they should be used on a first come, first serve basis, after the initial 12, others can just get a line out of one of the initial 12, feedback? comments? should we start collecting $$$ for this on new years?
muggsy
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 12:39:33 (EST)
Hey pickle.. can you email me the contact info for your DAT repair guy? Thanks!
PhunkyZen (phunkyzen@cox.net)
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 12:25:04 (EST)
Everyone keep bitch and get your mics ready!
Pickle
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 11:55:01 (EST)
Yea, just what we need, sk in charge of everything!!! you are killing me over here!!!
Pickle
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 11:52:35 (EST)
If an archivist makes few copies of a show,and only shares them with other archivists,it compels others to want to tape.If the shows were made to seem easier to avail oneself of,maybe less people would come to tape.Another perspective is all I'm saying.The downloading sites only work for high speed folk,so it still has that feeling of exclusiveness.Even though it's the labor of cleaning up a superior recording that makes the best shows,the one who has a copy for you,the unknown fan,is the one who looks like a god.
unknown fan
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 11:39:32 (EST)
January 2002 posts in archives,what happened?...that Mackie sounded like a nice solution...and I remember issues between.....oh, yeah....did anyone test out Shoeys suggestions?
bfree
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 11:09:39 (EST)
i'm glad i'm getting mics for xmas :)
PhunkyZen
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 10:55:25 (EST)
I believe my copy of Cheney came out A-OK! I ran battery power and had no power problem. Also, I haven't completely burned the entire show, but I think my recording is OK. I'll be happy to B&P once I determine it's completely intact! stagger.
Stagger Lee (cotribute2@patchbay.com)
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 10:54:43 (EST)
taper, that's the mantra for 2003......MORE TAPERJONES!!! we miss ya buddy, good luck with the career change!
muggsy
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 10:36:48 (EST)
Well I have to say I agree with zappa and muggs on that one from an archivists view...As long as its getting archived...thats all I care about...a COMPLETE SHOW...I've done my best to archive as much "older" material of the band...Lets atleast let the archivists get the shows complete...thanks again..sk and zappa...I think of you guys everytime my list gets an update...right now I'm about to make a drastic career change...so i've been a little scarce lately...but that will change...
TaperJones
- Monday, December 23, 2002 at 22:34:11 (EST)
Hi guys, saw my 1st show in years at cheney hall, I used to tape creek a ton in 94, 95 but it was all analog and I cant afford a dat deck. Anyways, I was curious if everyones tape got fucked up or if some ppl got a complete copy. That was my gf's 1st show and we'd love to have it. Would anyone consider a B&P or uploading to archive.org? Please Email me if anyone can help out. Take care and happy holidays.
Scott (hocuspocus71@hotmail.com)
Manchester, NH - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 18:30:10 (EST)
Sort of ;), been to too many shows this year, Albany it is
kbooth
- Monday, December 23, 2002 at 17:41:27 (EST)
albany, the only one you went to, remember?
muggs
- Monday, December 23, 2002 at 16:41:36 (EST)
I forgot, what show did you want for hartford so I can bring it
kbooth
- Monday, December 23, 2002 at 16:35:03 (EST)
Muggs, I will be at the Webster for NYE, we can hook up then....
kbooth
- Monday, December 23, 2002 at 16:28:57 (EST)
i think i was given that job, that's why i get there so early every show..........and, i'll have that hartford other ones show for you when i come up to rochester
muggs
- Monday, December 23, 2002 at 16:14:26 (EST)
Muggs, I was joking, I see Mr. Taper police in here giving me shit from time to time.....was joke, more pointing to the fact that what we need is a taper police at the show to watch this stuff ;)
kbooth
- Monday, December 23, 2002 at 15:55:45 (EST)
hassling you? you use mics! no hassles here, just stating the facts, too many times it's someone who's plugging their mini input into the headphone jack or not plugging it in tight enough and they ruin it for everyone else, and this has got to stop, meanwhile, i e-mailed that company with the patchbay, the one that fz gave me the link to with several questions, if i get the right answers maybe i'll start taking up a collection on new years and buy this thing
muggs
- Monday, December 23, 2002 at 15:54:08 (EST)
I can't seem to find anything to add that is positive to this conversation.Too bad.
bfree
- Monday, December 23, 2002 at 15:53:07 (EST)
Why can't the taper police get out there and take care of these issue besides coming in here and harassing us?
kbooth
- Monday, December 23, 2002 at 15:42:07 (EST)
...let's not forget paused decks!
hehehe
- Monday, December 23, 2002 at 15:33:50 (EST)
yep, it's the mini-disks and these idiots who buy cheap cables and show up at the last minute, frankly i'm sick of showing up 2 hours early and getting everything ready then one of the above characters ruins it for everybody, this won't happen again though, b/c at the first sign of a glitch due to a mini-disk or someone not plugging their mini cable all the way in, then everyone behind the archivists will get their line unplugged
muggs
- Monday, December 23, 2002 at 15:26:34 (EST)
A patch bay would eliminate this issue completely. Yea, nothing is funnier than the guy that pays $1400 for a DA-P1 and then uses those cables that you have to giggle to get a good signal ;)
kbooth
- Monday, December 23, 2002 at 13:29:55 (EST)
basically.. all we need to do is get a box that would eliminate the splitter mess. Either that or just check levels as each person plugs in. Maybe make a nothing less than gold plated radio shack splitters rule? Or maybe tapers can actually show a sense of responsibility and test their shit before each gig. it amazes me when people go out and buy a $400-$1000+ dat deck but buy $2 splitters and cables. I hear ya.. things were completely fine when i plugged in too.. then when the band took the stage I noticed we were missing a channel. at the time we didn't have enough time to un-cluster fuck everything and pinpoint exactly where it is. there were no cut tapes last week.. except for house AC cutting some people off.
PhunkyZen
- Monday, December 23, 2002 at 12:49:43 (EST)
This is one of the big reasons I got away from the SBD and went AUD, sick of cut tapes, bad patches and terrible mixes.
kbooth
- Sunday, December 22, 2002 at 19:43:22 (EST)
I vote for shutting down soundboard feeds alltogether, except for the band archives,you want a sound board copy of the show, one of the band archivists will clone you one to spread I'm tired of last minute bullshit(when everything was already tested and worked perfect) and cut tapes because of shitty splitters or a $70 mini disk who's input isn't in all the way and shorts out everyones signal.Sorry to be so blunt but some of us spend alot of money and time to make sure we(the fans ) get a full show.And are sick of cut tapes.
zappa (zappacreek@attbi.com)
- Sunday, December 22, 2002 at 17:29:00 (EST)
the one offered for 100 on here before sounded fine,no one wanted to take charge of it though.Like anything else,if you really want it,you either do it yourself and swallow it,or wait.....
bfree
- Sunday, December 22, 2002 at 12:16:36 (EST)
Ahhhh...the trials and tributlations of the SBD patchers....bad spiltters will screw things up all the time
kbooth
- Sunday, December 22, 2002 at 11:57:42 (EST)
we seriously need to get one of those patch boxes.. someone's splitters are bad. either that or we need to watch the signal as everyone plugs in to figure out who it is..
PhunkyZen
- Sunday, December 22, 2002 at 11:38:54 (EST)
deck this hall.
bfree
- Sunday, December 22, 2002 at 10:46:16 (EST)
where to go from here....a recommendation for a stereo mic(s) ,the best ones for under 200 a pair.
bfree
don we now our gay apparrel, ... - Sunday, December 22, 2002 at 10:45:34 (EST)
Did somebody say cock?
kbooth
- Saturday, December 21, 2002 at 11:38:53 (EST)
Ah buzz.. put a cock in it.
sk
- Saturday, December 21, 2002 at 10:12:52 (EST)
i know that was you sk, you jaded suck-up, or belly acking bitch as your friends call you
BUZZ
- Saturday, December 21, 2002 at 00:00:07 (EST)
You two would make a lovely couple.
Gay Brunch Buddy System
- Friday, December 20, 2002 at 15:24:47 (EST)
Good morning BUZZ.
bfree
- Friday, December 20, 2002 at 10:39:41 (EST)
Good Morning Tapers
BUZZ
- Friday, December 20, 2002 at 06:21:45 (EST)
Does anyone out there have a quality recording of Outside of Home???????? please if you do can i have it????????
REAGAN (MOONCHYLD421@YAHOO.COM)
Newport, r - Thursday, December 19, 2002 at 15:51:59 (EST)
better watch out, I have connections in the Taper CIA ;)
kbooth
- Thursday, December 19, 2002 at 12:31:16 (EST)
Nobody is above the law lad.
Taper Police
- Thursday, December 19, 2002 at 12:07:10 (EST)
with every post no doubt!:))
bfree
- Wednesday, December 18, 2002 at 19:19:44 (EST)
I am above the law ;)
kbooth
- Wednesday, December 18, 2002 at 19:13:07 (EST)
eat me taper police ;)
kbooth
- Wednesday, December 18, 2002 at 18:37:55 (EST)
You watch the backtalk young man or you will be fined.
LT. Perdy
- Wednesday, December 18, 2002 at 17:35:51 (EST)
Too many posts? What is the point of a forum then......
kbooth
- Wednesday, December 18, 2002 at 13:40:47 (EST)
I picked up on that.Thanks for the warning.
bfree
cities, - Wednesday, December 18, 2002 at 12:35:25 (EST)
Far to many bfree posts out here, watch your step young man, you are very close to being fined for flagrant posts.
Taper Police
- Wednesday, December 18, 2002 at 12:20:41 (EST)
Yea, $7000 grand is a lot, but boy would it be fun
kbooth
- Tuesday, December 17, 2002 at 12:45:23 (EST)
I like the new Jimi dvd,there is an option to view 4 of the tunes with picture in picture,so you see all the footage,minus whats hidden from the full frame.3 angles.I wanna do that.So right!
bfree
- Tuesday, December 17, 2002 at 12:36:18 (EST)
How that will compete with studio cams after all that investment I don't know.But it sure looks good.It pretty much allows you to bypass traditional studio editing and cut straight to your PC and to DVD.Tasty!
bfree
- Tuesday, December 17, 2002 at 12:32:48 (EST)
for real,most production puts the audio and video together last, the audio is sent to a tracker and mixed,then sent to a DV deck to join the video,which could be multi angled prior to recording.Or do it all in post........this is top line...JVC5032.It has EBU in/out...7,000.Not ready for that.
bfree
- Tuesday, December 17, 2002 at 12:30:46 (EST)
looks like a regular xlr....and it automatically knows if the output is going to a 16 bit,nice!
bfree
- Tuesday, December 17, 2002 at 12:16:09 (EST)
I spied a pod for conversion/adaption with that system,nice set-up.Great for tracking a show!!
bfree
- Tuesday, December 17, 2002 at 12:09:22 (EST)
AES is usually 20 or 24 bit.A deck like zappas' alesis would be a prime candidate for that.I would not currently be able to handle that.
bfree
- Tuesday, December 17, 2002 at 12:07:38 (EST)
AES/EBU, 3 plug professional digital connection that few consumer or pro decks carry, check out the back of the mini-me on this page, http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/prod_minime.html
kbooth
- Tuesday, December 17, 2002 at 12:06:39 (EST)
oh...I have xlr 3 pin balanced lines to input,but it then goes through a stereo mini prior to the deck.i am looking at versions that have xlr inherent in the cam....how many channels will your aes be carrying? 16?
bfree
- Tuesday, December 17, 2002 at 12:05:43 (EST)
advanced encryption? wouldn't know where to start....
bfree
- Tuesday, December 17, 2002 at 12:00:27 (EST)
i.e.,what is AES?
bfree
- Tuesday, December 17, 2002 at 10:05:09 (EST)
not familiar with the term...break it down....I'm off to work.Be safe,chat ya later.
bfree
- Monday, December 16, 2002 at 13:12:34 (EST)
I am pretty sure the mini-me can output 2 different signals, one from the AES and one from the rca spidf, can you take AES?
kbooth
- Monday, December 16, 2002 at 12:49:30 (EST)
that's why I mentioned the dual output mode question.No one likes to have to convert from 48.
bfree
- Monday, December 16, 2002 at 12:25:41 (EST)
I can also do 16bit at 48kHz, just have to resample when I make the CD's which I really don't like doing.
kbooth
- Monday, December 16, 2002 at 12:18:33 (EST)
But that would be cool to not have to worry about aud,I had planned on lending my level input box to someone for nye...
bfree
- Monday, December 16, 2002 at 12:10:27 (EST)
My cam records at 48 kHz...do you have something that can output 2 different frequencies? I'd be willing to see if it will still work,like if my cam will take the 44.1 and convert it to 48.....it accepts other mic/sbd feeds...I'll definitely be at nye....I am debating roving at the stage though.It depends on my confidence that night......I haven't gotten to remastering the water street yet,seasons change has me without a head....
bfree
- Monday, December 16, 2002 at 12:08:45 (EST)
If you can take the signal at 44.1kHz at 16 bit then you can have a patch right out of my mini-me, will sound way better than an analog patch out of my tascam. Plus, with the digipatch you don't have to run the levels, it's all controled by me, so you concentrate on the video, I can do the sound.....you hitting Water Street in Jan, or maybe even NYE in the Webster, I will be taping both. We should try again
kbooth
- Sunday, December 15, 2002 at 13:34:12 (EST)
welp,my cam is 16 bit,so,yes,it should work fine.As far as the frequency,I'll have to check.
bfree
- Sunday, December 15, 2002 at 11:44:41 (EST)
I guess the qestion is, can it take a 16bit 44.1kHz signal via a rca spdif conncetion
kbooth
- Saturday, December 14, 2002 at 20:45:51 (EST)
I am talking RCA, I don't have an optical output
kbooth
- Saturday, December 14, 2002 at 20:22:04 (EST)
Oh yeah bhphotovideo.com has manfrotto/bogen light stands that will work well for mic stands as well, which is what micsupply.com offers for mic stands, for twenty dollars cheaper than micsupply to boot.
Dopey
- Saturday, December 14, 2002 at 18:58:54 (EST)
thanks for the web sites!!!
bfree
- Saturday, December 14, 2002 at 16:47:41 (EST)
the most common connector used with an S/PDIF(Sony-Philips Digital Interface) is the RCA connector,the same one used for consumer audio products.This I have.As far as having an optical connector,this I do not have.I do have a fire wire,which could be an interesting experiment to see if it would take an audio signal onto the tape with visual from the lens.My book doesn't state the possibilities here.I am currently looking into 2-3 cameras for upgrade,2 of which include an spdif interface(optical).I just received the go ahead for another 13 week rotation on public access,so I will be needing another camera,mine is about to leave sugar mountain....because of this,I have had to forego another pc for now.if someone would like to be a collaborator for editing,please do contact me.
bfree (midnight_monkey2@SPAMTHISyahoo.com)
- Saturday, December 14, 2002 at 16:16:28 (EST)
Hi Buzz!!!
kbooth
- Saturday, December 14, 2002 at 10:29:36 (EST)
Hi Tapers
BUZZ
- Saturday, December 14, 2002 at 07:15:19 (EST)
Hey Bfree, does your video recorder have the ability to take a spdif signal. Would love to try what we tried at Water Street, but with a digital patch it would sound sooo much nicer
kbooth
- Friday, December 13, 2002 at 20:55:41 (EST)
Hey BFree did you look at micsupply.com? Or the used gear for sale at Oade.com? After you check there you might want to try a Guitar Center or some other local music store and compare prices. Peace.
Dopey
- Friday, December 13, 2002 at 20:23:03 (EST)
78" min.....
bfree
- Wednesday, December 11, 2002 at 10:52:36 (EST)
bur seriously,i am looking for a decent mic stand,80-86" telescoping would be optimal,lightweight tripod base,web searches getting frustrating here.thanks for any input.Under 120 bucks would be optimal.Peace.
bfree
- Wednesday, December 11, 2002 at 10:51:06 (EST)
so.. who wants to make me a copy of last nights snow in vt? i've taped every show since wormtown except the harvest dance and the brewfest.
PhunkyZen (phunkyzen@cox.net)
- Saturday, December 07, 2002 at 14:22:55 (EST)
hmmm,that dictionary....
bfree
- Thursday, December 05, 2002 at 19:29:24 (EST)
gotta read something new here.Taper,what's up your sleeve? innagoddadavita? ;))
bfree
- Thursday, December 05, 2002 at 19:28:58 (EST)
that may be the answer pz, not sure, i'll e-mail them and ask some questions, good research effert on your part though
muggs
- Tuesday, December 03, 2002 at 15:56:29 (EST)
Carvin.com for taping needs.
Mr. Bassman
- Sunday, December 01, 2002 at 09:42:39 (EST)
sk, did that drunk guy mess up taperjones deck before i caught i caught him in the mensroom with it ?
BUZZ
- Sunday, December 01, 2002 at 09:40:47 (EST)
i've looked around for awhile now.. that's the only thing i've found thats made for audio. they have similar boxes that seem to be really pricey and do video as well as audio. Anyone else know where we could find a box that will take one input, and split it into a bunch of rca plugs?
PhunkyZen
- Saturday, November 30, 2002 at 15:49:48 (EST)
it seems like just what we need and they go for about $150 each.. we could even chain more than one together if needed.. that way we can eliminate any chance of problems w/ splitters or loose connections
PhunkyZen
- Saturday, November 30, 2002 at 15:18:52 (EST)
hey sk.. is this what you had in mind last night?? http://www.markertek.com/MTStore/Store.cfm?Manufacturer=Henry+Engineering&main=product.cfm?BaseItem=PATCHBOX
PhunkyZen
- Saturday, November 30, 2002 at 15:16:57 (EST)
they have portable dvd cams...hitachi open box at circuit city for 770 bottom line....30 minute discs though...:(
bfree
- Friday, November 29, 2002 at 12:59:47 (EST)
you could do cool shit with Audio DVD. Send different mics to different speakers on a surround sound system for more of a live feel. And it could playback at 24bit/96k
PhunkyZen
- Friday, November 29, 2002 at 12:05:10 (EST)
now they have a recordable dvd player, not portable though, wonder what those are like, wonder if they have input controls or not
muggs
- Friday, November 29, 2002 at 10:42:27 (EST)
they're made with cheapish materials,but technically sound.Radio Shack issue.
bfree
- Thursday, November 28, 2002 at 20:50:49 (EST)
I'd probably snag it just to be self sufficient.
bfree
- Thursday, November 28, 2002 at 13:38:23 (EST)
I had two sets of xlrs with me last night...shame there isn't peace in the valley.......
bfree
- Thursday, November 28, 2002 at 13:37:44 (EST)
any thoughts on the Oktava MK319 condenser? i'm reallly debating picking up a pair. they list for $600 each.. on sale for $99 each. for $200 its almost like I can't go wrong
PhunkyZen
- Thursday, November 28, 2002 at 12:47:52 (EST)
mmm.. i hear ya. it would be better to have the extra length that a cable would give you too. they go for about $40ish each though... so probably in a few weeks. although we need them..karls xlr's kinda shit the bed last night and we lost one channel.. hadta jingle it to get it to work.. lost it again durning the encore so i had to move it around again to get it back.
PhunkyZen
- Thursday, November 28, 2002 at 12:20:13 (EST)
PZ,those barrel adapters work good,but if you have a snug fit with the rca in,don't force it,I have had a pair of those where my rca barrels ripped out the innards from the rca side of that adapter.At camp this summer:(((.You are better off getting one with some cable between the xlr and rca.
bfree
- Thursday, November 28, 2002 at 10:14:33 (EST)
LOL!..Buzz,you slay me!!..and I bet you have my stereo mini jack dontcha!
bfree
;0, - Thursday, November 28, 2002 at 10:04:59 (EST)
oh my, there are tons of coments i could make about Bfrees post on November 27, 2002 at 11:52:27, but its way to easy
BUZZ
- Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 23:34:27 (EST)
actually bfree i misread ya... here's your male/male http://shop.store.yahoo.com/imperialguitar/gxr135.html
PhunkyZen
- Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 20:44:12 (EST)
Anyone out there interested in a Lunatec V2 mic pre-amp. After testing out the mini-me on it's own I am very happy with it and no longer have a need to lug around the V2. Bought new in July. Not a scratch on it, mint condition, still got the original box and lit that came with it. Also throw in a 6volt powercable to be used with a eco-charge batter. $850 firm (paid $1325 for it), email me if you are interested.
kbooth (kbooth@rochester.rr.com)
- Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 18:11:10 (EST)
excellent.
bfree
- Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 12:01:56 (EST)
here's what you want bfree.. http://shop.store.yahoo.com/imperialguitar/gxf132.html
PhunkyZen
- Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 11:55:38 (EST)
yeah pickle.. i was debating getting the adapters to mickey mouse something together but for the $$ i would have spent on the adapters i could get what i needed all in one piece for less...
PhunkyZen
- Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 11:52:49 (EST)
there seems to be an issue with people stocking reverse chain sex...I happen to have two male xlr to male rca adapters,then I can barrel the rca.I happen to be male into my deck,so I need to do it this way.If I needed to reverse the sex,in order to retain the balanced lines(which is optimal),I'd need a dual male.PZ must have a similar scenario.
bfree
- Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 11:52:27 (EST)
you know, you can just get female/male ones and then get the adaptors and barrells to get to the rca. that is what i did and it was very simple to do.
Pickle
- Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 09:13:20 (EST)
well,that you do need to mail order.i need one of those myself.(xlr fem/fem)...it figures.
bfree
- Wednesday, November 27, 2002 at 01:57:06 (EST)
right on.. well bring yours. i went to 3 different shops today none of which had what i needed.. guitar center.. daddys junky music.. and i tried radio shack again just for the hell of it.. they all said i'd hafta mailorder through the net to get a female/female xlr/rca
PhunkyZen
- Tuesday, November 26, 2002 at 20:01:26 (EST)
Congradulations and hugs to Valchy and Michelle
BUZZ
- Tuesday, November 26, 2002 at 19:47:00 (EST)
I promise ya, Carl will be there for sure.
Pickle
- Tuesday, November 26, 2002 at 19:45:43 (EST)
I have xlr...and I will be there,but that's for me i guess eh? You don't have to get back to me,but an answer either way would have been nice.....daddys junkie music and the music shop both carry accessories for guitarists,mics,and recordists.Any guitar shop would have minimal xlr adapters with and without cable.
bfree
- Tuesday, November 26, 2002 at 18:27:02 (EST)
I have XLR's if it comes down to it!
Stagger Lee (firstsnow@creek.com)
- Tuesday, November 26, 2002 at 12:46:01 (EST)
zappa.. thanks but no thanks.. if i were to spend that kind of cash on a recorder I would need it to be able to run without the need for AC. Hey anyone know of any retail joints where I can pick up some XLR/RCA cables/adapters? Radio Smack doesn't carry them.. trying to get xlr's for tomorrow night in case karl doesn't make it cuz of the snow.
PhunkyZen
- Tuesday, November 26, 2002 at 12:27:54 (EST)
Say, does anyone know if Tommy still does the Butt Bang Fandango for anyone who will score for him?
Long Time Creeker
- Tuesday, November 26, 2002 at 11:50:17 (EST)
phunky zen I'll sell you this one for $900 http://www.alesis.com/products/ml9600/about.html and I bet you can even find AC for it at a Creek show ... Let me know .. B-free what did you have in mind ??
zappa (zappacreek@attbi.com)
- Monday, November 25, 2002 at 21:05:30 (EST)
Howdy tapers, I was wondering if anyone had any FLipper Dave on hand that they were willing to trade, I have a modest Creek list(old & recent shows) among some other stuff(i.e. Dead, NYoung, etc.). Let me know if you would be willing to help and I'll send you my list via email. Thanks Anyone!!! cya at Lupos!
Chrispy in RI (CHRISPER75@COX.NET)
LOOSEcHANGEVILLE, - Saturday, November 23, 2002 at 07:44:52 (EST)
well.. they came out with a 24bit/96k professional hard disk recorder finally.. its only $10000! http://www.proaudioreview.com/par/otb/otb3.shtml
PhunkyZen
- Friday, November 22, 2002 at 19:50:41 (EST)
zappa,another experiment?...
bfree
- Friday, November 22, 2002 at 10:39:37 (EST)
who taped wednesdays at lupo's off of the board??? i'm looking for cd's of all of them... email me... scottm@maxcreek.com... thanks!!!
x
- Thursday, November 21, 2002 at 17:36:58 (EST)
I put this on the other side; it may stay here a little longer......

For all of you with fast internet, check out http://webdev.archive.org/audio/etree.php for a really fast site with lots of shows in SHN and FLAC format. There are no Max Creek shows there yet, but they have space for them and are all set to receive uploads. So, if you can upload SHNs, have at it!
John
- Thursday, November 21, 2002 at 09:49:58 (EST)


Muggs, show came out great....email me so I can set up you sending me some discs
kbooth (kbooth@rochester.rr.com)
- Tuesday, November 19, 2002 at 15:07:27 (EST)
you must be new at this game barfield, it ain't that difficult to sneak equipment in, hey kris, how did the albany show come out, i want copies, that was a really great show
muggs
- Tuesday, November 19, 2002 at 14:51:47 (EST)
hi. i just need some help getting my recording equipment into philly, continental al arena, and msg. i have good stuff and floor seats, just not taper seats! so if you feel like teaming up, sharing a micstand, patching, whatever....do drop a note. ....
david barfield (d.barfield@umdnj.edu)
brooklyn , ny - Monday, November 18, 2002 at 14:34:20 (EST)
zappa,on the Alesis,what is the format/extension for the audio files?
bfree
- Monday, November 18, 2002 at 10:11:28 (EST)
welp,I'm pretty sure I'm gonna have a new pc soon,one that takes direct a/v input.If the venue will give me an outlet,I just might...
bfree
- Monday, November 18, 2002 at 10:08:42 (EST)
Can anyone hook me up with 10/26/02 Hoops-n-Hops, SBD,... trade B+P can ftp too, http://mywebpages.comcast.net/teliason16/cdrville.htm
ToM (tome_e@hotmail.com)
CT - Saturday, November 16, 2002 at 17:50:52 (EST)
b-free I have analog rca and xlr and also type 1 xlr and coaxial didital conections , see ya at Toads..
zappa
- Friday, November 15, 2002 at 16:48:11 (EST)
Zappa,what kind of inputs do you have on the Alesis?
bfree
- Thursday, November 14, 2002 at 23:43:19 (EST)
hehehe,I mean,Alesis.I post corrected.
bfree
- Thursday, November 14, 2002 at 10:31:55 (EST)
zappa has that Alexis HD deck he's looking to find a taker for.Maybe worth chatting with him about for hahas...
bfree
- Tuesday, November 12, 2002 at 10:02:34 (EST)
Once a good HD recorder comes out I will be doing 24bit 96kHz, I refuse to go the laptop route...
kbooth
- Monday, November 11, 2002 at 23:41:25 (EST)
ever think of doing a 24 bit 96mhz recording,and lettin' folks hear the show from their dvd players? it would be nice to allow those extra acoustical frequencies to get a second listen to as well.. and then with the soundstage to work out,well,that would just be swell!
bfree
- Monday, November 11, 2002 at 23:35:28 (EST)
dogpatch, didn't I send you camp or is the AUD's just not doing it for you?
kbooth
- Monday, November 11, 2002 at 21:46:52 (EST)
i was just wondering if anyone has sat nite and sunday of camp creek this past one, soundboard......
dogpatch (milkdrinker29@gosignup.com)
- Monday, November 11, 2002 at 21:08:51 (EST)
Here is the link if you want to read about it some more, http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/prod_minime.html. It's built by apogee and is a professional, portable mic/pre-amp A/D converter than can do 16bit, 20 bit and 24 bit recording at 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88kHz and 96kHz. You can go mic-in with mics and use the pre in the mini-me and the A/D, or go line-in and just use the A/D converter. If you put this at the front of the chain, with a spdif patch pay you could give a lot of very nice digital patches. The 3D soundstage this thing creates is almost scary it sounds sooo realistic
kbooth
- Monday, November 11, 2002 at 16:19:28 (EST)
so just what can your mini me do?
bfree
- Monday, November 11, 2002 at 15:33:55 (EST)
Some day I will have to test my mini-me going line in from the SBD, I bet with a good board feed it would sound pretty damn sweet.
kbooth
- Saturday, November 09, 2002 at 21:22:32 (EST)
I would contribute to a patch-bay like that. It isn't necessarily ideal for "us" yet, but maybe someday it would be very valuable. The issue is that there isn't always someone making a good s/pdif feed from the board. It's nice when something other than a deck like mine is in the house......and especially nice if there's a good a/d converter present. But, that's usually not the case. Still, I say it's a start and would be cool if a few of us could get together and offer on it.....
John (jshep@yahoo.com)
- Thursday, November 07, 2002 at 22:00:47 (EST)
Pro Digital dda5 Patch Bay>>>>Is this "patch bay offer" something a few of us should check out? Lord knows that "line splitting" all the time kinda stinks. Maybe we can all kick-in and buy it? What do you think guy's? $100 dollar offer divided by 4 or 5 is do-able? Anyone familiar with this offer? Stag.
Stagger Lee (lmetaxas@cumberlandfarms.com)
Pawt., RI - Tuesday, November 05, 2002 at 16:59:55 (EST)
thanks kbooth
BUZZ
- Tuesday, November 05, 2002 at 05:12:37 (EST)
Pro-Digital Patch Bay For Sale

I have a pro digital dda5 patchbay, that takes 1 spdif in and has 5 spdif outs.
It works perfectly, the paper label is a bit worn (as are all that have seen field use). Has been modified by the addition of a locking coax jack (identical to the v3 jack), for no connecction issues when its in the field. great for laptop patchers who fear geting kicked to the end of the chain.

Includes the following:
-ac adapter
-adapter for 9v battery operation
-adapter for 4 pin xlr

these 3 adapters all work with the original dc power plug, you could easily change the end of any of them to a locking style plug.
Asking $125 obo
thansk,
jamie

Jamie Lutch (jlutch@altairinc.com)
- Monday, November 04, 2002 at 20:21:58 (EST)


http://www.makestickers.com/home.asp
kbooth
- Sunday, November 03, 2002 at 18:01:44 (EST)
cool, can you post the address to the site?
BUZZ
- Sunday, November 03, 2002 at 16:36:18 (EST)
I stumbled upon this bumper sticker site that will make any bumper sticker you want...I also had a cool one that says PATCHER FRIENDLY that I can put up at shows so patchers know I give patches and don't act like a dick about it.
kbooth
- Sunday, November 03, 2002 at 13:49:11 (EST)
that`s were i found that kbooth, nice job
BUZZ
- Sunday, November 03, 2002 at 09:49:35 (EST)
BUZZ!!!! Did you get my new graphic off the Terrapin Board? I made that myself, and have some cool bumper stickers with it on it.......It's the truth!!!!! BITCH!!!! and yes I wasted after taping one kick ass Reid Show
kbooth
- Sunday, November 03, 2002 at 02:49:27 (EST)
i thought you tapers would enjoy this http://www.crispytunes.com/images/schoepsbumper.jpg
BUZZ
- Saturday, November 02, 2002 at 22:49:15 (EST)
LTD, for sure.
Terrence M.
- Saturday, November 02, 2002 at 19:43:53 (EST)
LCD or LSD :)
kbooth
- Friday, November 01, 2002 at 17:10:28 (EST)
tripping and taping makes your LCD do random things
PhunkyZen
- Friday, November 01, 2002 at 16:23:53 (EST)
How bout Trip and tape...though this can get hairy if you don't know your gear real well ;)
kbooth
- Friday, November 01, 2002 at 12:47:12 (EST)
Trip
shoulda been a choice
- Friday, November 01, 2002 at 11:27:10 (EST)
Tape
kbooth
- Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 22:54:13 (EST)
...tape...
who do you think
- Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 20:05:12 (EST)
trick or tape
Hi tapers
- Thursday, October 31, 2002 at 19:01:23 (EST)
or JAR PST...sssssssssso how issssssss it muggssssssss?
bfree
- Wednesday, October 30, 2002 at 18:42:14 (EST)
world bfree speaks in forked tongue
muggs
- Wednesday, October 30, 2002 at 18:14:32 (EST)
Here is where I drop on in! :))...I might know someone who has access to RF mics and a receiver.This would put an analogue touch to the recording,with an A/D converter between the receiver and deck,but relieve the need for cables across the venue...with a small place like Lupos(or another place),there shouldn't be interference,as the distance to the receiver is minimal.That way,mics could be at the stacks,monitored throught the receiver and then sent to the A/D...there isn't currently technology that I know of that can take RF and convert it to wav in one step(unless it's booku bucks in the private sector).I'd be game to hold a mic for an evening near a stack for an experiment.If I can't get that equipment,then I would be willing to come early to a gig to properly run heavy gauge cable from front to back.If costa let ya,and you could access it,you could probably run the mic cables along the same path as the monitor snake...then you could have minimal delay,as the mics would pick up miliseconds after the stage mics sent their info out...a good crowd/energy mic would be best to use in post production if you do not have delay technology with you,but I have some great shows that are aud,that get the energy that the board doesn't have,and I would not trade them for sbd ones.especially when it is audience participation,like Gimme or Loser etc...(but I would post produce a mix of the 2 if given an opportunity!!:))
bfree
- Wednesday, October 30, 2002 at 11:02:45 (EST)
it's far better to use mics when they don't allow sbd patches, but i pulled it off, scamming illegal board tapes at the hartford jazz fest a few years ago, it was very stealthy, a good story for another time
muggs
- Wednesday, October 30, 2002 at 02:28:38 (EST)
Taper, I would love to get into doing some martrix mixes. They can be tough to pull off. The easiest way is using software to mix it afterwards, but I think results would better if you could mix on the fly, but that requires access to the SBD but have you mics close to the stacks...but I would love to get into doing them.
kbooth
- Tuesday, October 29, 2002 at 23:43:36 (EST)
SBD vs AUD ... I go by 2 things...the soundboard...and the venue...face it...(SBD)..certain venues are well known for there great sbd patches(living room)...where some are not...they sound great as sbd's, driving the PA...but the signal is way tooo hot for our decks...(VENUE)...you will have to guard your mic stand the whole night...so Taping location is a priority...(to avoid such mishaps like at hoops last weekend)...and the size of the venue...But lets face...its always nice to know someone is doing an AUD in the event something goes wrong with the SBD patch...there are shows w/o tapes...
...so let me ask you guys this...what do you think about matrix mixes...

TaperJones
- Tuesday, October 29, 2002 at 23:23:22 (EST)
This argument could go one forever. If you want a pure live feel use mics, if you want a more sterile, yet cd quality sound use the SBD, I tape live shows to get the live feel, not to strip it away. It takes different strokes.
kbooth
- Tuesday, October 29, 2002 at 12:36:14 (EST)
with a good receiver like a Yamaha,you can do that without touching the recording aspect...I do not feel it is blasphemy,as it re-creates the size of the room it was recorded in,a good thing for a purist.
bfree
- Tuesday, October 29, 2002 at 10:56:17 (EST)
my favorite is running a SBD through a program that'll give you the acoustics that it's in a room.. no crowd noise yet you get that live feel.
PhunkyZen
- Tuesday, October 29, 2002 at 10:22:43 (EST)
Muggs, hey, we all like different things, but I wouldn't say I am one of the stubborn few, maybe for creek, but head over to the oade.com board, there is an army of people there that would rather do AUD. If you like the SBD better then use it, its all a matter of what your ears like.
kbooth
- Monday, October 28, 2002 at 21:27:49 (EST)
another great example was camp, 2001, i never heard better sound in front of the sbd before, my cpr tape came out incredible, i kept saying to myself, what a waste taping creek off the sbd, it sounds so damn good in front of the board, then i listened to my boards of those 2 shows, and while the p.a. was impeccable, so was the sbd, those sbd tapes can't be beat!
muggs
- Monday, October 28, 2002 at 21:03:00 (EST)
well you're one of the few, stubborn ones left, i suppose it matters what kind of p.a. is being used, and what kind of sbd is being used and you have to weigh those considerations, but, for example, as great as the fob aud's for dead shows sound.......and a lot of those have been coming out in recent years circa 1983, the soundboards still sound better, although it's always cool to lug your equipment into shows and invariably way to many people are going to ask you for a copy of the show
muggs
- Monday, October 28, 2002 at 21:00:56 (EST)
Muggs, no offense taken. Everyone hears things differently, but I happen to disagree on your one point, between SBD and AUD I will always take a good rig in a good location over the SBD, but just my opinion
kbooth
- Monday, October 28, 2002 at 19:47:10 (EST)
kris, i in no way felt the quality of your cd's sucked, hope you didn't think that, i think if you were 30 feet closer you woulda been adjacent to scott, haven't listened to the sbd's yet, i'll let you know how they came out, generally speaking, when you have the choice of sbd or aud, go sbd, generally speaking
muggs
- Monday, October 28, 2002 at 19:36:37 (EST)
:)
bfree
- Monday, October 28, 2002 at 10:33:01 (EST)
hey bfree, email me please. thaks bro.
thingfish (ahamilton@meditech.com)
- Monday, October 28, 2002 at 09:20:15 (EST)
and from what i did get off your patch,there wasn't any noticeable mid range mud to speak of.My general comment to any aud taper out there reading this is,why settle? If mic A is good on its merit,and so is mic B,see if they compliment each other.I know some people have some knowledge of coinciding angles,and using a delay on a matrix to resolve time spaces...more toys to acquire of course.But why not?
bfree
- Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 22:20:05 (EST)
I believe you have misunderstood me.I was saying that the shoeps have good bass response,thereby not having a tinny sound,which borders on 'bright'...the fact that those cards block alot of crowd noise,coupled with the baffle effects of the walkway above,would color your recording.My mentioning the 2 pairs of mics was just a conceptual thing,kinda like spatially modifying a recording on the fly,or RF mics...I have very novel ideas that i would like to put into practice,and people say it hasn't been made yet but is mathematically possible...dat could eventually become obsolete(or would have to be retrofitted(thanks John!)) if these concepts were realized.I am all for positive energy and growth.....you probably wouldn't believe the ideas I have......
bfree
- Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 22:07:59 (EST)
...hey carl, fryin and muggs...thanks again for saturday...
TaperJones
- Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 21:22:00 (EST)
Muggs, I think the biggest reason my tapes sounded the way they did was because of the acoustics of waterstreet, which suck bad. I use the mk41 caps (hypercardiod) which help to eliminate a lot of crowd noise and room reverb, but Waterstreet is a tough place to tape. I have some shows I did at Milestones, where I can get much closer to the stacks that are much clearer and have better highs. Bfree, one of the best things about the schoeps is that they have a great low end, but when you use them in a boomey environment like WaterStreet (warehouse acoutics) and use a pre-amp like the V2 the bass can tend to get a little sloppy, but then again, I have never found a creek show that had over powering bass so I guess I need to know what you are hearing. Those set of shows was also the first time I used the mini-me for A/D and I am still getting used to it. Personally I think the tapes sound great, but what sounds good to one person sounds like crap to the next since microphones can be such a personal preference. Give me more feedback, but I think most of the issues I had where do to Water Street, if I could have set up maybe 20-30 feet closer to the stage we would of had a whole new tape.
kbooth
- Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 18:03:41 (EST)
mild distortion from the condensers,but liveable.I have an awesome frame to grab from Darlin..
bfree
- Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 15:42:28 (EST)
I just started viewing it...I didn't tape Jones,because I was in the wrong spot.I wasn't planning on taping actually,I just happened to have my cam in the car with me,and it felt right to do it,so I went and got it..I think I vaguely recall 2 girls in front of me at one point,but my focus was elsewhere.Lots of shoving in the second set,the 1st set was more personal,in many ways.
bfree
- Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 15:41:28 (EST)
how's things going world? how's the video come out last night? were you able to get those 2 lesbians going at it just to the right of rob, that was really special!
muggs
- Sunday, October 27, 2002 at 11:47:09 (EST)
I thought that the tapers section was set alot further back this time...the last time in January,Valchy was just at the overhang...so where the mics were this time,there was alot more acoustic baffling going on.Aren't Schoeps supposed to be effective on the low end?.......Kris,what different caps do you use with those,and can you tweak the high end? It would be cool to take 2 pairs of mics and run them through a mixer before your decks.Like take one from each pair and switch them on the stands.Just a Thought.......
bfree
- Friday, October 25, 2002 at 23:14:26 (EDT)
don't get me wrong kris, they sound great, anyone would be pleased to have aud cd's of that quality, although i woulda thought that as a whole, the highs would sound a bit brighter than they did, but that's just how i like my live cd's to sound, certainly not a reflection on your equipment or your cd's, cuz like i said, they do sound great, haven't listened to the sbd yet, i'll let you know how those came out
muggs
- Friday, October 25, 2002 at 17:27:29 (EDT)
strech can you call me? cant find yo # spanks Brian
brian (bhurtubis@msn.com)
rockenchester, NY - Thursday, October 24, 2002 at 20:10:53 (EDT)
Acoustic Creek offer: i've cleaned up 11-13-98 (a lot), 11-14-98 (somewhat less) Hoops and Hops shows. 5 80-min CDRs Audio, 4 SHN. Blanks and Postage. Let me know...good shows, these...
Stretchy (stephenr@snet.net)
- Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 21:51:29 (EDT)
Damn keyboard problems, SK...what did you think of those AUD's from Water Street that I gave you?
kbooth
- Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 17:55:22 (EDT)
*
kbooth
- Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 17:54:58 (EDT)
*
kbooth
- Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 17:54:41 (EDT)
two can play at your game taperjones
sk

- Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 15:46:03 (EDT)
thanks...and they're off......
bfree
- Wednesday, October 23, 2002 at 10:25:22 (EDT)
Kris,i needed your addy to send these....
bfree
- Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 10:05:56 (EDT)
...here's a quarter.
bfree
morning!, - Tuesday, October 22, 2002 at 10:05:01 (EDT)
here...its your call...
TaperJones (TaperJones@aol.com)
- Monday, October 21, 2002 at 23:18:05 (EDT)
...hey "just wondering"...why dont you email me...or i can just ask "x" for the tag number....and email you...or should i just post here that your the one who made that post...its your call...
TaperJones
- Monday, October 21, 2002 at 23:14:53 (EDT)
i'm off to bed..I read my mail around 9ish am...I'll have these out by noon the morrow...peace.
bfree
- Monday, October 21, 2002 at 23:09:41 (EDT)
actually,now that i am looking at these,i didn't yet put your addy on the mailer...and when i went to look it up in my email,in a letter,it was gone.And mori used the last mailer (with your addy buried on it) to send out some glass beads...so I need your addy again...gee wiz! all dressed up and no where to go....
bfree
- Monday, October 21, 2002 at 23:04:01 (EDT)
no problem bfree, I had was getting over a flu type bug during the Creek weekend, fever, headache, feel like crap, I know how it feels.
kbooth
- Monday, October 21, 2002 at 23:01:02 (EDT)
you know I thought about it,but I slept this morning between runs..I'm trying to get over being sick...I didn't make it.But I have the blanks and mailers sitting here.I just have to get to the PO for postage.I did mean to do it today....got them achey bone blues...
bfree
- Monday, October 21, 2002 at 22:50:23 (EDT)
Bfree, did you get those discs in the mail yet?
kbooth
- Monday, October 21, 2002 at 21:39:35 (EDT)
ahhhh,peace in the land......
bfree
- Monday, October 21, 2002 at 21:11:22 (EDT)
Taper jones , I'm so sorry, This is just one reason to never repeat gossip, I've been outa touch didn't know you own a house now (congrats)..Been burned by lots of people lately wanting something for nothing, and exploded in the wrong fasion this morning by slaming you. Please except this apology and keep up the good work..Your probly busting your ass on your dream house, and don't have time for anything else..
Just A Idiot
- Monday, October 21, 2002 at 18:21:47 (EDT)
yeah, that was cowardly and gutless. i've made posts on here dissing tj about his numbers, bobble-head dolls, selling tapes, etc. and posted as others, but everyone knew it was me and i was kidding around, but this just wonderin dude oughta have his ass kicked for real!
muggs
- Monday, October 21, 2002 at 17:30:59 (EDT)
Posting slams and not posting your name equals one big punk. Shut your face or show it!
Uncle John (basstonelowb@hotmail.com)
- Monday, October 21, 2002 at 17:15:30 (EDT)
Take a hike "just wondering", this is the tapers forum, not the bash tapers forum, if you have any cd's, tapes from any creek shows you owe us tapers a few hours of your life.
kbooth
- Monday, October 21, 2002 at 16:30:41 (EDT)
Hey don't thank me while you trash one of my friends in the same post.
Carl
- Monday, October 21, 2002 at 16:12:17 (EDT)
Wow,that seems slightly(?) harsh,aimed at someone who used to work for max creek,who does b n ps for anyone who asks,and who pretty much is responsible for this webpage being up(as a supporter who asked x to keep it on).Maybe someone is jealous that he has AAALLLLLLLL the shows?
Tapers section reader
lol, - Monday, October 21, 2002 at 11:00:14 (EDT)
hey, there's no call for that kind of post on here. taper has supported this band with his heart & soul for as long as anyone. the man has a house now, and a mortgage, and it's a fixer-upper house and he's putting his hard-earned money and his heart & soul into his house, so yeah, money may be an issue to the extent he just can't afford to go, and i'm sure time's an issue as well, so "just wonderin", not that it's any of your bidness, and you've got a hell of a lot of nerve dissing taperjones out here, but now you know, and as always, taperjones tapedeck is welcome at all shows, whether he comes along if it's possible, or not!!!
muggs
- Monday, October 21, 2002 at 10:59:21 (EDT)
Taperjones is it true that you don't go to shows any more because no one will put you on guest list ?? if it's so thats (LAME) Kinda tired of hearing the HA HA I got the show crap when your not even the person taping or paying to support the band. Carl does the setlists (Thanks Carl)What do you ?? Oh you'll be at Hoops it's free...
Just Wondering
- Monday, October 21, 2002 at 06:35:31 (EDT)
...hey kris....wasnt sure if that was you..send it again...hi spacey....allllllllllllll the shows...
TaperJones
- Saturday, October 19, 2002 at 22:46:31 (EDT)
rock & roll
T-Dog (heeheehawhaw@yahoo.com)
- Saturday, October 19, 2002 at 00:24:00 (EDT)
taper taper, he's the buzz, if he ain't got it, no one does!! hahahaha
spacey cheerleader (rara@sisboombah.)
- Friday, October 18, 2002 at 23:09:45 (EDT)
Taper....did you get my email?
kbooth
- Friday, October 18, 2002 at 21:51:33 (EDT)
...hey muggs...i cant believe ya just said that...i was sitting here thinking i'de make a post here thanking costa for the feed...carl for bringing the deck and taping the shows...pickle for the AC...and you...yes you...for running my deck at the rochester shows...so hey...THANKS MUGGS...
TaperJones
- Friday, October 18, 2002 at 21:39:37 (EDT)
That was an awesome run,I was delighted that a Boogie was thrown in there,it was a nice balance....muggs,any luck with that thanksgiving show?..I know life is busy and such,if it's not anywhere to be found then I'll ask elsewhere.Thanks..:)..
bfree
- Friday, October 18, 2002 at 10:07:09 (EDT)
taperjones, did you forget about me in your post on the other side?
muggs
- Friday, October 18, 2002 at 09:16:23 (EDT)
skeets and me are getting married.
muggsy
- Friday, October 18, 2002 at 03:46:57 (EDT)
Listening to 10-12-02 right now, damn was that Emerald Eyed-->Boogie on Reggae Woman-->Just a Rose fuckin incredible.
kbooth
- Thursday, October 17, 2002 at 18:38:36 (EDT)
i used to be an idealistic hippie myself back in my college days FZ, and technically you're right, i don't think i've ever bought a cd from strawberries, but those huge bookstores are all the same too, corporate, you'll find as you grow older convenience is the most important consideration, just remember, a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged
muggs
- Thursday, October 17, 2002 at 14:38:16 (EDT)
www.rochestergroove.com
kbooth
- Wednesday, October 16, 2002 at 18:50:27 (EDT)
kbooth, what is the rochester groove?
bonghit
- Wednesday, October 16, 2002 at 16:36:07 (EDT)
muggs.. don't buy music from strawberries.. grossly overpriced music corporation. support your local music merchant :)
FunkyZen
- Wednesday, October 16, 2002 at 09:28:04 (EDT)
mr. booth for president!
muggs
- Wednesday, October 16, 2002 at 09:19:27 (EDT)
Got Friday and Saturday night done and ready to burn. Want to spread these gems around, B&P offer is open, just drop me an email.
kbooth (kbooth@rochester.rr.com)
Rochester, NY - Tuesday, October 15, 2002 at 20:47:06 (EDT)
muggs,strawberries has all of maybe 20 cds in its 'bluegrass section'...the barnes and noble across the street has a stand up representation of bluegrass...and I just heard something from that album as well.If you do snag it,lemme know how the disc is as a whole.
bfree
- Tuesday, October 15, 2002 at 20:01:40 (EDT)
hiya tapers....~~wink~~ ~~wink~~
spacey
- Tuesday, October 15, 2002 at 19:30:10 (EDT)
hey bfree, does the strawberries you work at have a decent bluegrass section? i'm looking for a cd by tim obrien and i think it's called red on blondage
muggs
- Tuesday, October 15, 2002 at 18:27:07 (EDT)
I've got the 1st set done already.. 2nd should be done tomorrow
FunkyZen (phunkyzen@cox.net)
- Tuesday, October 15, 2002 at 16:20:49 (EDT)
Any chance I can get fridays show at water street?I know it's only been a few days but,when it's ready!!!!!Would really appreciate it.......:)
Daisy
- Tuesday, October 15, 2002 at 12:01:53 (EDT)
Wow, killer weekend, got to tape the Receipe, both nights of Creek and the Sim Redmond band. Sk, let me know what you think of my cd's....Saturday's tapes sounded better since they had the PA and SBD cranking very nicely. Will be uploading all of these shows to The Rochester Groove when I get them done
kbooth (kbooth@rochester.rr.com)
Rachacha, NY - Sunday, October 13, 2002 at 22:30:40 (EDT)
Praise be!
fuccer
- Sunday, October 13, 2002 at 11:04:49 (EDT)
at office-max on sale ; 50 spindle imations $12.99, plus a $10.00 factory mail-in rebate, thats $2.99 for 50 disks, you fuckers
BUZZ
- Saturday, October 12, 2002 at 17:01:00 (EDT)
kris!!! were you able to be in the center of the room???? I need to know...
bfree
- Saturday, October 12, 2002 at 15:22:12 (EDT)
10/11/02...Water Street Music Hall...Rochester,NY.
SET 1...Windows, big boat-} rainbow, back street woman, old stones, broken bones, down on the corner, something is forming...
SET 2...Life during wartime-} who do you love-} Going’ down the road-} In Harmony-} Werewolves of London-} One more Saturday night...
Encore...Gimme Shelter...

FW
ny - Saturday, October 12, 2002 at 13:38:34 (EDT)
Another great Friday night Creek show at Waterstreet, did a lot of covers, but they rocked it out....tapes came out great, see you all tonight!!!
kbooth
- Saturday, October 12, 2002 at 12:55:46 (EDT)
If you're interested in this, let me know and I'll meet up with EV to do the exchange for you........

Cleaning house prior to a move. Does anyone still use cassettes? I have 29 new Maxell XL II-S: 21 x 90minute (unwrapped, but absolutely never used) 8 x 60minute (still sealed) First $30 gets them all, else best offer. I assume this is a good deal, as ttapes.com says: > Maxell XLIIS-90 minute $1.25 > The Maxell XLIIS series offers a heavier shell design and a superior tape formulation to the XLII tape. This is a discontinued product. After our limited inventory is exhausted this product will no longer be available. and www.tape.com has them for 1.60 and 1.20 respectively. You pick them up (eves & weekends in NoHo, workdays in Rock Center) as I really don't want to bother with shipping. peace, further... e BWT: email me for a login to grab moe.'s Sat 9/21/02 Beacon show -- Alex P's fine source: http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=12151
john (jshep@yahoo.com)
- Friday, October 11, 2002 at 14:52:37 (EDT)


Bfree, you referring to me? I won't have any XLR connects, RCA and sony 7 pin only
kbooth
- Friday, October 11, 2002 at 13:10:44 (EDT)
It's looking serious for me saturday..can you have a space for me by the poles?looking for patch as well,what connects do you have? I need to replace some adapters that failed this summer.Straight xlrs would be sweet though...getting a little height at that spot is my next issue,to clear heads..maybe a milk crate will do?...hmmmm.
bfree
- Friday, October 11, 2002 at 10:23:54 (EDT)
Made of money? I wish.....sold off some older gear to get the mini-me
kbooth
- Thursday, October 10, 2002 at 12:22:56 (EDT)
what are you made of money, kb? mini-me...........yowsa
gear envy
- Thursday, October 10, 2002 at 11:54:12 (EDT)
Yea, since Waterstreet is small and gets packed for Creek they usually send the mic guys upstairs which sucks, puts you above the stacks for real shitty sound. Valchy and I plan to get there early, bribe the owner with some Water Street Creek recordings of past and hope he lets us setup ;)
kbooth
- Tuesday, October 08, 2002 at 11:10:13 (EDT)
You Knucklehead, why didn't you just mail order?
Team Player
- Tuesday, October 08, 2002 at 09:16:35 (EDT)
I might make saturday night,sat morn I'm in line for TOO.
bfree
- Monday, October 07, 2002 at 20:46:48 (EDT)
you mean valchy needed special permission to be where he was last time? those pipes in the middle there are a great place to hole up from dancers etc...
bfree
- Monday, October 07, 2002 at 20:45:10 (EDT)
Ok, who's hitting the Water Street shows? Hope to be taping up front with Valchy if the owner lets us on the floor, really want to try out my new mini-me.
kbooth
- Monday, October 07, 2002 at 19:54:06 (EDT)
so was the Bison show ever put back up? still at 71% here ...
Stu
- Monday, October 07, 2002 at 18:23:04 (EDT)
well...my last ISO wasnt available, so ive got another idea...I've got 11/7/97 with Mike Gordon that I just got in..sounds killer..in seach of the same...killer sounding 97 and newer, with or without guest...I've got a few other shows, too, if anyone is interested.
mark (msherrick719@snet.net)
- Sunday, October 06, 2002 at 16:34:14 (EDT)
"Time" was a tune that originated from the sound check. "David Mackalaster is a Les Claypool tune.
setlist
- Sunday, October 06, 2002 at 15:53:19 (EDT)
AFTERNOON JAM...
10/06/02
Amston Lake...Amston,CT.

ONE SET ONLY

Time(debut)-> Jam-> Leaves... David Mackalaster... Jelly Jam-> I.C.U... Eyes-> Forming...

setlist
- Sunday, October 06, 2002 at 15:41:19 (EDT)
...will do...
bfree
- Saturday, October 05, 2002 at 20:00:35 (EDT)
brian: thanks. your buddy seemed to be enjoying himself, too...I hope you find the show for him...if I ever see you at Strawberries, lemme know if you find it.
mark (msherrick719@snet.net)
- Saturday, October 05, 2002 at 19:42:03 (EDT)
not yet,I'm waiting for it myself.It was also a 'first show' for a friend of mine,I'm sure he'd be all happy to get it.....if i can swing it on cd,I'll spread it.
bfree
- Saturday, October 05, 2002 at 19:39:29 (EDT)
hey...is 8/23/02 from the Webster circulating yet? I'd like to get my hands on it on CD if possible....thanks in advance
mark (msherrick719@snet.net)
- Saturday, October 05, 2002 at 19:36:44 (EDT)
I got 10/2 on SBD DAT. First couple songs are sketchy. Weird vocal separation on The Field. No guitar or keys on You Don't Know, but it was that way in the house sound too. Mics wouldn't have helped.
Carl
- Thursday, October 03, 2002 at 23:30:50 (EDT)
SBD sucks!!!!!! :)
kbooth
- Thursday, October 03, 2002 at 23:10:50 (EDT)
...i got it bri...and was told it came out greatttt...is that order done yet...lolololol...just kidding...i got bri cloning... 7-12-02 to 9-14-02...well...the ones he has of course...
TaperJones
amston lake, ct - Thursday, October 03, 2002 at 22:28:03 (EDT)
hey FZ,you're in the DAT world now aye? power to ya!
bfree
- Thursday, October 03, 2002 at 20:42:00 (EDT)
i got it on DAT off the board.. haven't listened to it yet though
FunkyZen
- Thursday, October 03, 2002 at 20:31:18 (EDT)
I am under the impression that Carl brought Tapers deck to the show...
bfree
- Thursday, October 03, 2002 at 20:24:55 (EDT)
ok, so who got last nights show on DAT?
bri
- Thursday, October 03, 2002 at 19:11:01 (EDT)
i`m feeling less than fresh today
sk
- Thursday, October 03, 2002 at 18:51:01 (EDT)
here ya go
FunkyZen (phunkyzen@cox.net)
- Thursday, October 03, 2002 at 18:18:13 (EDT)
Hi How's everyone today? Funkyzen give me your e-mail address and I will e-mail ya!!!!!!!!
daisy
- Thursday, October 03, 2002 at 11:43:35 (EDT)
you weren't adding pineapple to my lime jello,so i don't care!....hey,we gonna bump into each other for TOO ticks at the ticketbastard next weekend? I'll be at the filene's in west farms bright and eaaarrly.
bfree
andfurthermore..., - Wednesday, October 02, 2002 at 21:02:56 (EDT)
sure daisy :)
FunkyZen
- Wednesday, October 02, 2002 at 19:46:50 (EDT)
i see buzz is posting as me again
muggsy
- Wednesday, October 02, 2002 at 17:26:26 (EDT)
Hey funkyzen sorry getting back so late.... Do you still want my email address?
daisy
- Wednesday, October 02, 2002 at 15:04:33 (EDT)
correction: i meant plugging my ass
muggsy
- Wednesday, October 02, 2002 at 13:51:50 (EDT)
shut up and return to kissing my ass
muggsy
- Wednesday, October 02, 2002 at 13:11:24 (EDT)
no more lime jello for you bfree
BUZZ
- Wednesday, October 02, 2002 at 06:27:37 (EDT)
oh,Dennis,be sure to check out some of the hilarity on the Forum! Since Buzz and Muggsy aren't together anymore,it's just one taunt after another!
bfree
- Tuesday, October 01, 2002 at 21:05:29 (EDT)
dennis that post is as confusing as some of mine, wow!
bfree
- Tuesday, October 01, 2002 at 17:25:42 (EDT)
hey Dennis,the original members get together at anniversary time,usually in May.That would be a definite(not sure about Sue?)..talkin 'bout sunshine...:))..you might get faster attention by going to the main page,and clicking on the link 'contact'.That will give you a list of each band members public email addy(Johns).Good luck.
bfree
- Tuesday, October 01, 2002 at 09:59:18 (EDT)
I spent my life with JOHN, Bob, and Dave this was a long time ago. We spent a long time traveling to Avon, Hartfort, and many other places. We meet a a young kid I think 16st at that time named Scott,I had a place we all lived in Indian Orchard together(forgive the spelling (I don't give a FUCK). I have been trying to get in touch with for so many years. I saw many of them at the concert at downtown Springfield a few years ago. I would like to see tthem again soon. I have no more then 1 year to live!! I don't to see the current band I want to see Bob and Sue and Dave (if possible i know that might not be possible). I know little about computers but if you can help me I would greatly appreacatit (I told you I couldn't spell). Tell them after years I learned how to play the Hammica after all those tries with jothathan edwards, ang crenence. Private joke they will understand. Please tell them I LOVE THEM AND ALWAYS WILL I THINK OF THEM ALWAYS< IT WAS THE BEST TIME OF MY LIFE. I LOVE THEM AND YOU THANK YOU FOR MAKING MY LIFE BEAUTIFUL AND MEANINGFULLV IT HAS BEEN!!! Dennisdjb.aol.com
dennis (Dennisdjb@aow .com)
Green harbor MA 010141, ma - Tuesday, October 01, 2002 at 02:12:01 (EDT)
that wasn't me below
muggsy
- Monday, September 30, 2002 at 14:33:56 (EDT)
To: Jimbo nice work taping shning and seeding Camp Sunday SBD. Special thanks for leaving it up long enough for us peeps to get it. I'll be sharing it as well. Jump on the bandwagon.
Stu
- Monday, September 30, 2002 at 03:03:37 (EDT)
zappa, just give it to me for free. why you ask? well, because i am sk, thats why
sk
- Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 19:20:31 (EDT)
One Alesis ML 9600 Hard Drive Recoeder for sale $ 900.00 Firm
zappa
- Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 16:20:31 (EDT)
...hey Mark M...your 1/12/02 is done...and in the monday AM mail...
TaperJones
- Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 14:09:26 (EDT)
Anyone know how to go about connecting to the "Outside of Home" hub on Direct Connect? Just started downloading stuff from other hubs with very good results, but I can't seem to connect with Outside . . .
Boris (kolbab@attbi.com)
Northampton, MA - Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 11:40:31 (EDT)
Tucker, get Camp from Phunky, he has it all ready to go...
kbooth
- Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 16:00:21 (EDT)
hey daisy.. whats your email?
FunkyZen
- Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 13:52:14 (EDT)
hey tucker.. did you need to grab something from me? i think you said you wanted copies of camp. now that you have high speed net access i could just hook you up with my ftp server and you can download stuff. do you have the last creek show @ the webster? i played a wusss card that night and i was kickin' myself cuz of the poetry jam. tryin to get a digital copy of it
FunkyZen (phunkyzen@cox.net)
- Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 13:51:38 (EDT)
Rich, I taped Wu at Camp, be happy to hook you up, drop me an email. They are also coming to Rochester in October, plan to tape them then also.
kbooth (kbooth@rochester.rr.com)
- Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 02:51:07 (EDT)
wow just got high speed online awsome let the shns begin cant wait to get some shows won't be seein creek till nov @toads prolly how about samples, govt mule, and Les @webster yesssir
tucker (lzrrd30@hotmail.com)
- Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 00:44:20 (EDT)
did anyone tape the Big Wu at camp? I'm hoping to be able to offer a Creek/Wu b&p package out here in Wu country. Creek's still fairly unknown in the midwest and i'd like to do my part to change that! trades welcome, my list is "Relic" at phishhook
Rich (relicscdrtrades@yahoo.com)
- Friday, September 27, 2002 at 19:33:53 (EDT)
Hello I was wondering if anyone can help me out with wormtown show I heard it was GREAT!!!!!!!!! please and thank you love to all
daisy
- Friday, September 27, 2002 at 11:12:12 (EDT)
no ,i hear Tommy iz doin' the boogie woogie wiff ur sistah....the one wiff the teeth who livez at the sheltah.......doooszhbaG!
canuhearme
- Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 21:57:07 (EDT)
but is there a tape?
:)
- Wednesday, September 25, 2002 at 19:37:02 (EDT)
Is Tommy still doing the nasty Boogie-Woogie with that photographer dude?
Get A Load Of This Then
- Wednesday, September 25, 2002 at 16:10:41 (EDT)
I'm looking for something new to read over here! :)
bore dom
- Tuesday, September 24, 2002 at 20:40:57 (EDT)
if anyone's lookin for a cheap way to do digital transfers from a dat into your computer.. this looked like one of the best deals i could find. http://www.minidisco.com/minispecs/edirolua1d.html
FunkyZen
- Saturday, September 21, 2002 at 10:54:28 (EDT)
I'd like to get some Creek Recordings, I'm not picky, I like just-bout everything Creek plays, (except for this one Anniversery show they played a few years back) anywho, I need a hook up. I'm willing to do the work. Ponderosa Bob
Ponderosa Bob (contactmerv@hotmail.com)
Enfield, CT - Thursday, September 19, 2002 at 16:01:14 (EDT)
brian....if you catch the early sex, you'll have plenty of time for the whole show...
mark
- Thursday, September 19, 2002 at 08:37:50 (EDT)
your shn is done also. start 9:30 prob. but we'll most likely be at home before if you want to swing by...
Stretchy
- Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 22:15:03 (EDT)
I'm conflicted...grapes of VF at sullys friday...I might go to tape them..I kinda nudged them to hook up with that venue,they never play hartford..(they're from stamford)...your shn is done.what time for juice? maybe I can cath the early sex...
bfree
- Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 21:14:34 (EDT)
bfree works for me, juice friday night in middletown? kris no worries, just checking in...mark, i should send you some more creek for your server :)
Stretchy (stephenr@snet.net)
- Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 18:23:09 (EDT)
Stretchy, still picking some stuff off your list for a trade for Saturday, I haven't forgotten, was out of town in Boston this past weekend.
kbooth
- Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 11:17:51 (EDT)
hmmmm...I would only use an attenuator if the signal out of the board it just too hot. When you run line in you want to be able to jack your level on the D8/D7 as high as you can, 10 being best (wide open as far as A/D goes). Since most SBD guys don't help adjust level's on a line out to get you to an optimial level on your deck, a -10db pad might help in getting your deck to run hotter. Anhyone behind you will also get the pad also. My view is only use an attenuator only if you have to, and being that most SBD patches run very hot it might help. Personally I am totally off the SBD, after listening to a bunch of my SBD's from Creek I did from 99 through 2002 I don't get why I though it sounded so good.
kbooth
- Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 11:16:56 (EDT)
it is an aud,clean for it's day,clear vocals,low bass response..lover man,fire,foxey lady,red house,hey joe,sunshine of your love ,hear my train acomin',please crawl out your window,purple haze,wild thing(cut at 1:16)..59:17
bfree
- Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 10:17:24 (EDT)
mark,i have a bunk shn file..and he's hooking me up with a copy for what i don't have...um,as re: a how/what,hmmm how does a Jimi Hendrix 5-10-68 Bill Graham Presents shn disc sound?
bfree
- Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 09:57:33 (EDT)
stretchy...I've got that 4/6/96 on CD if you want it ASAP...I dunno what kinda deal you have with bfree, but perhaps I can help.
mark (msherrick719@snet.net)
- Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 09:09:06 (EDT)
kris, any choices in for trading for saturday creek? also, would be interested in that pevar sbd down the road...will spread it around as well as to the creek site...bfree how/when to trade the 4-6?
Stretchy (stephenr@snet.net)
- Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 07:47:22 (EDT)
any thoughts on using an atenuater(sp?) for sbd recordings i swear by it but some don't like it can it adversly affect the entire taping line just wonderin
tucker (lzrrd29@aol.com)
- Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 00:40:41 (EDT)
And a kick ass show to boot, Pevar and Scott just rip it up during Devil's Heart
kbooth
- Monday, September 16, 2002 at 21:53:12 (EDT)
That's the one. I have a good SBD of that show, need to re-do the cd though, first pass was not a digital transfer, the second master will be.
kbooth
- Monday, September 16, 2002 at 21:52:36 (EDT)
the one with peev, right?
Stretchy
- Monday, September 16, 2002 at 20:45:10 (EDT)
or mayby its sept. 4, 2001 i dont remember
faerie
- Monday, September 16, 2002 at 11:50:03 (EDT)
Dose anyone have a copy of Phil's Farm party sept. 1, 2001. This is my all time favorite and would really to hear it agian email me
faerie (faerie82@yahoo.com)
ct - Monday, September 16, 2002 at 11:42:52 (EDT)
Hello - I was wondering if anyone had a copy of the 09/07/02 show yet? A friwnd of ours sat in with them for a few songs. We's love to surpirze him with a copy of that show. Check out my list at http://db.etree.org/durf if you are up for trading for this show. Thanks peace Durf
Durf (Durf111@yahoo.com)
Upstate, NY - Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 20:56:41 (EDT)
i've seen a few on phishhook too..just wonderin if anyone here had any.
mark
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 20:40:55 (EDT)
thank you.
bfree
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 20:30:30 (EDT)
bfree, i've got both discs of the 4-6 on shn. be happy to make it for you :)
Stretchy
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 20:08:00 (EDT)
the one disc I never got around to opening,whatever the reason was...i have an shn disc,the second one for 4-6-96,and,well,the disc hasn't been formatted yet...which means I don't currently have it..if anyone out there has disc 2,(IIb and III),I'd like to talk about getting it,as I am needing it for a trade :(
bfree
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 20:05:14 (EDT)
look on phishhook,i thought i saw it there somewherre...good luck.
excepting alice
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 19:20:30 (EDT)
hey folks...tiny bit of a strange request...my father wants me to ask if anyone has any live Arlo Guthrie shows within which Alice's Restaurant is played...I'm also lookin' for some Creek...email me if you can help me with either one..thanks in advance.
mark (msherrick719@snet.net)
middletown, - Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 18:42:10 (EDT)
sk,thanks for the assist..felt a little dumb when the problem was discovered.at least that won't happen again! did your gimme cut out before the end? It may have just been my scenario..jshep,what to say? good to see you and moe.I learn something new every day right?...fryin,I'm jonesing :)).i am planning on having a standalone to do some dat transfers???.if you have a free evening,call me.I'd love to spread some recent shows(on my time)..
bfree
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 16:09:30 (EDT)
nothing to the 'last brewfest' notion...and hey,we even had a touch of rain!
bfree
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 09:16:43 (EDT)
there ARE GOOD VIBES IN HERE I FEEL IT
PHATOM GOURMET
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 19:53:29 (EDT)
pervert.
that morning guy
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 16:36:20 (EDT)
i`m watching
drama
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 16:28:36 (EDT)
is anyone bringing mics to the show tonight????
bfree
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 16:14:40 (EDT)
Taper...are you bringing your mixer to the Brewfest? I would love an xlr patch...my xlr to rca adapters quit on me at Camp...this is supposed to be the last brewfest,so I wanna get it...also,are your xlr outs male or female? The ends of my cables to your end are female...I am already discovering that if I want a double male xlr barrel,that I'm gonna have to have it custom ordered...I emailed you...finding an adapter for xlr female-1/4 inch mono isn't having success either :((.....anyone out there have what I need? or know a local place that definitely has these? THANKS!
bfree
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 15:46:26 (EDT)
does anyone have, blueground undergrass from last yr or uncle sammy from this yr? please let me know thanks
dogpatch (milkdrinker29@gosignup.com)
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 22:27:32 (EDT)
yeah,they have that usbPre I was talking about...
bfree
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 20:09:50 (EDT)
more info here http://www.sonicsense.com/V3.htm, you can also get a used V2 through sonic sense
kbooth
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 16:38:55 (EDT)
I meant the new V3 which ships mid this month is about $1400
kbooth
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 16:36:33 (EDT)
the V2 will soon no be available since the V3 is coming out. The V2 use to be $1325, you can get them now in the 800-900 range. Personally if you are going to buy a pre-amp might as well get the V3, same pre as the V2 and you also get a real nice A/D converter built in that can do 24bit 192kHz recordings (along with many other settings, 16bit, 20bit, 24bit, 44.1, 48, 96kHz, etc), the V2 is about $1400
kbooth
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 16:35:20 (EDT)
how much does the v2 cost?
muggsy
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 15:51:41 (EDT)
And when I speak of bass, I don't mean that the schoeps are overly bassy, just that its a lot tighter and warmer in the low end, sounds like a nicely produced studio album where you can feel the bass, but its still smooth. The MBHO's just didn't have the punch I like.
kbooth
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 13:05:01 (EDT)
No problem and I have heard others say the Schoeps sound processed, its all a matter of personal taste. So do you run the Beyers right into your deck? A pre-amp when used properly can really do wonders for brining out the full potential of the mics. You should borrow one from someone and see what you think, I love the V2.
kbooth
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 13:00:43 (EDT)
thanks for the info. i'm not a huge fan of a lot of bass, in fact, i don't like mics that sound bassy, to me, if there's not enough bass then i can just kick it up a few notches on the receiver, and, i'm not the first to say that schoeps sound processed, but you're right when you say that mics are very subjective, if you like the sound than they are good mics, once again, thx for the info., i've used the beyers m 88's for the last 15 years w/o a pre-amp and they always sound really good
muggsy
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 11:16:57 (EDT)
"TONIGHTS PICK"...9/9/00...THE RECIPE FAMILY COOKOUT Albright, W.V.
2 YEARS AGO TODAY... (ONE SET ONLY)... Cruel World->> Tangled Up In Blue->> Wild Side... You're The Only One... Something Is Forming->> Late In The Evening->> Back Porch Boogie Blues...

TaperJones
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 23:22:50 (EDT)
Thanks for the picks taper....those bring back some great memories...
Tans
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 19:23:20 (EDT)
I`m lonesome on the "other" side, can`t I just disrupt thigs in here once a day ? I promise to not get to grafic. Taperjones used to love, but its all over now, over now.
Drama
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 17:07:15 (EDT)
Microphones are all about personal taste. Schoeps sounding processed? Not sure on that one. I find schoeps to have a much deeper and tighter low end than the MBHO's. The MBHO's have excellent clarity in the high end but don't give me the bass that I like. The guy that started MBHO spent 13 years at Schoeps. The MP-2 is made by Sound devices. Its the first Pre-amp I used but I didn't like the way it colored the sound of the MBHO's, made it a little muddy in my opinion, and a little sloppy in the low end, but a great pre-amp for under $700. In my opinion nothing can touch the Lunatec V2 by Grace Designs for a pre-amp, no coloration, just pulls what the mics hear. The V3 is about to come out, same pre-amp as the V2 but with a 24 bit A/D also and at about $1400 is a complete steal. A new set of MBHO's with the card caps run about $1200-1300, can probably score a used set from some one for under $1000 unless you want the active cables. My set are spoken for unless my friend can't get me the money in a few weeks. But when it comes to mics and equipment trust your ears, if you like the way the MBHO's sound then get them, I just happen to like the Schoeps more.
kbooth
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 16:27:14 (EDT)
i just listened yesterday to the p & f show from red rocks using the mbho 603's and the 220n capsules and they sounded great, i've used schoeps before and they sound processed to me, i can't imagine anything sounding much better than those mbho's. how much are they new? how much are you selling them for? the guy i patched out of also had an mp2 pre-amp, do you know what kind that is?
muggsy
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 14:30:23 (EDT)
Yea, I own the 603 bodies with the KA200N capsules. I just upgraded and got a pair of Schoeps CMC-5 bodies with the MK41 hypercardiod capsules (wow, what a difference). Selling the MBHO's to my best buddy Jeff.
kbooth
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 12:11:15 (EDT)
hey kbooth, do you own the MBHO 603's?
muggsy
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 11:45:34 (EDT)
I have a stand alone burner, what kind of help do you need? Email me at poorbackslider@aol.com
Jacob Larson (poorbackslider@aol.com)
Saline, MI - Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 21:50:46 (EDT)
Hello everyone, I'm searching for kind tapers. A friend of mine from Iowa City, Iowa plays keyboards and has a band that is playing the places and dates below. You can check out his record label at http://www.trailer-records.com He allows taping and even soundboards. I am unable to attend any of the following shows, but he told me he'll let anyone tape his stuff. All you have to do is ask him, if you want you can tell him I (Jake Larson)told you about him. I'll offer a few shows to anyone willing to tape the shows listed below. I can be reached at poorbackslider@aol.com Please help, thanks in advance. 9/13 The Mile Away Hall Council Bluffs, IA 9/14 Tailgater, Kinnick Stadium Iowa City, IA 9/15 Crystal Corner Street Fair Madison, WI 9/17 The Iron Horse Northhampton, MA solo, with Allison Moorer 9/18 T.B.A. Portland, ME solo, with Allison Moorer 9/19 T.B.A. Boston, MA solo, with Allison Moorer 9/20 Private Party Des Moines, IA 9/21 Private Party Iowa City, IA 9/23 T.B.A. Birmingham, AL solo, with Allison Moorer 9/24 The Chucker Tuscaloosa, AL solo 9/27 Masonic Temple Building Des Moines, IA 9/28 Private Party Iowa City, IA 10/5 Magic Bus (afternoon) Iowa City, IA 10/5 The Mill (9.00 p.m.) Iowa City, IA 10/15 CANCELLED Minneapolis, MN Dwight Yoakum has cancelled this show Italian Tour (solo) 10/16-10/27 Dates are still coming in for this tour. For the latest information, visit the Only A Hobo site. 10/22 Nidaba Milano 10/24 Teatro Nuevo Gallarate 10/27 1.35 Circa Cantu with Jay Farrar 10/30 The Elbow Room Ypsilanti, MI 11/1 Dartmouth College 11/2 The Red Square Burlington, VT 11/3 Narrow Center for the Arts Fall River, MA 11/4 Piano Bar New York, NY 2 shows 11/5 Knitting Factory New York, NY tentative 11/6 The Fire Philadelphia, PA 11/7 Shenanigan's Richmond, VA 11/8 The Cave Chapel Hill, NC w/ Scrappy Hamilton 11/9 The Garage Winston-Salem, NC w/ Scrappy Hamilton 11/12 Radio Appearance Nashville, TN Billy Block's Western Beat Radio Show 11/13 Smith's Olde Bar Atlanta, GA w/ The Derailers 11/14 The Nick Birmingham, AL w/ Cutgrass 11/15 The Emerald Lounge Asheville, NC w/ Scrappy Hamilton
Jacob Larson (poorbackslider@aol.com)
Saline, MI - Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 21:49:40 (EDT)
Does anyone lurking out here have a stand alone burner? I need help on some projects(like borrowing someones standalone)...you'll get copies of all the goodies...please post a reply.This will start circulating some shows that are desired shows.Peace.
bfree
- Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 21:25:43 (EDT)
"TONIGHTS PICK"...9/8/01... WORMTOWN MUSIC FESTIVAL... Long Hollow Bison Farm Hadley, MA.
0NE YEAR AGO TODAY... (Scott Allshouse was unable to be at the show; Greg Vasso filled in on drums)... ONE SET ONLY... Jam >>(with Slipknot)... I Know You Rider(starting out with Slipknot, then Bruce Mandaro only, then just Max Creek)... Cruel World->> Up On Cripple Creek... Wild Side->> Yellow Moon->> Tangled Up In Blue->> Silver Jack... The Same Things->> Drum solo->> Katie Mae->> Jam->>drums(Greg DeGuglielmo) July, You're A Woman->>(drums: Greg DeGuglielmo)... Gimme Shelter drums(Greg DeGuglielmo)
ENCORE... Midnight Moonlight... One Way Out(lead vocals and additional percussion: Eamon Cronin)...
2ND ENCORE... Cities...

TaperJones
- Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 16:39:09 (EDT)
...hi miss melissssss...
TaperJones
- Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 16:30:30 (EDT)
g'mornin Taper!
}:{
- Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 11:02:46 (EDT)
"TONIGHTS PICK"...Friday, September 7, 2001
TOAD'S PLACE New Haven, Connecticut.
1 YEAR AGO TODAY... (Greg Vasso filled in on drums)... SET 1... She's Here->> Who Do You Love->> Borrowing Time... Waiting For You... Columbus Stockade Blues... Wild Side->> ICU...... SET 2... If You Ask Me>> Well All Right->> I Want To Die Easy->> Something Is Forming...
ENCORE... Henry->> Back Porch Boogie Blues...

TaperJones
- Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 00:29:17 (EDT)
Mary J says "No More Drama"!
bfree baby
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 16:23:55 (EDT)
i just want to be loved, is that so wrong?
Drama
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 14:40:45 (EDT)
"TONIGHTS PICK"...Friday, September 6, 1996...
LUPO'S HEARTBREAK HOTEL; Providence, Rhode Island.
(Scott Allshouse auditioned on drums)
...6 YEARS AGO TODAY... SET 1... She's Here->> Blood Red Roses->> Who Do You Love... Dance... Wild Side... Big Boat(intro)->> Magic Carpet Ride...... SET 2... Devil's Heart->> Louisiana Sun->> Stormy Monday->> Just A Rose->> Drum solo->> Big Boat(close)...
ENCORE... If You Ask Me->> Henry->> Back Porch Boogie Blues...

TaperJones
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 00:25:25 (EDT)
...well i have to say i'd rather see posts about taping or tape trading...little over 5 years ago, i started taping max creek...there was talk about shutting this section down until i started this massive collection we all know as the VAULT...i cant count the number of trades i have done thru here...and remember "TONIGHTS PICK"...after x redid the max creek forum the taper section was gone...so i asked him to put it back up..(sure its the last thing he wanted to hear since i brought it up at the end of the 2nd set opener at the next show)...but what the f**k...i paniced...lol...sorry scott...but what i would like to see and would appreciate that we keep the...well....lets call it the "drama" on the other side...like it used to be...on that last note...it gives me an idea...
TaperJones
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 00:08:09 (EDT)
This forum has its good and bad weeks. Sometimes a lot of good discussion is around, others times its just a bunch of imature posts by people with nothing better to do.
kbooth
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 00:17:28 (EDT)
Hey *,how is it ruining the taper section? not that I condone impostering,but,does it mean that the Forum is already ruined? Why come across like,oh no,the taper section isn't worth having anymore? The past couple days have been pure positive posting pertaining to taping...hmm,now that I think about it... LEAVE the impostering OVER THERE! How's that for an about face? sk is a cool dude,he doesn't always talk to me publicly,but he never snubs me and always says hi.This page is,I guess,sacred ground.Praise be!
bfree
I'mInLineForAn SK Award!, CT - Thursday, September 05, 2002 at 23:34:58 (EDT)
All I can say is whoever is posting as sk and whoever else is posting as other people,THANKS FOR RUINING THE TAPER SECTION!!!
*
- Thursday, September 05, 2002 at 23:20:34 (EDT)
i`m starting to think anal is not all its cracked up to be
sk
- Thursday, September 05, 2002 at 16:58:09 (EDT)
We've traded before stretch(ing) the truth
Smartass
- Thursday, September 05, 2002 at 14:22:38 (EDT)
I was looking for the Creek sets from the gathering. I can trade or do b&p. My email address is jcleotis@aol.com Thanks Bill
Willy B (Jcleotis@aol.com)
Gennwood , IN - Thursday, September 05, 2002 at 01:23:51 (EDT)
Thanks Steve, I appreciate it.
kboothq
- Thursday, September 05, 2002 at 01:12:16 (EDT)
kris, finished, in the mail tomorrow unless i get chained to my desk which is always a possibility
Stretchy
- Wednesday, September 04, 2002 at 22:22:47 (EDT)
hey i trade with anyone, except smartasses.
Stretchy
- Wednesday, September 04, 2002 at 22:22:16 (EDT)
Another wise guy in the forum
kbooth
- Tuesday, September 03, 2002 at 18:43:43 (EDT)
a swat in the head would be nice. yeah, sure, that's the ticket
i gotta list, too
- Tuesday, September 03, 2002 at 15:47:49 (EDT)
No problem Steve, just let me know when you get them in the mail.
kbooth
- Tuesday, September 03, 2002 at 13:05:10 (EDT)
thanks kris! as it would have it i listened to the 9-7-85 and found a bunch of artifacts...i've corrected all but 1 track, that 1 for tomorrow, and in the mail weds. latest, sorry for the delay, but i needed to stay off the keyboard for this weekend, and i like to get the music as perfect as possible...
Stretchy (stephenr@snet.net)
- Tuesday, September 03, 2002 at 01:17:47 (EDT)
boOoOoOoOoOoOon jovis
dogpatch
- Monday, September 02, 2002 at 21:07:24 (EDT)
agreed.
bfree
- Sunday, September 01, 2002 at 17:27:12 (EDT)
I have heard of that device before. Not sure on the specs, but as long as it doesn't resample input as it goes in then you should be fine, you want pure bit for bit transfers.
kbooth
- Sunday, September 01, 2002 at 11:31:25 (EDT)
I am thinking of investing in this usb hub from sonic solutions that would allow me to use someones dat to upload a show to master to cd (since i don't own a dat myself)...has anyone used one of these? it has firewire and fiber optic I/Os...any tech issue to be aware of? a reason someone wouldn't want a cd from its use?
bfree
- Sunday, September 01, 2002 at 01:36:43 (EDT)
I have a Bon Jovi show from '88 I think...looking to trade for todays show in VT.( I have other shows besides the Bon Jovi one,just ask!;)
bfree (midnight_monkey2@yahoo.com)
- Sunday, September 01, 2002 at 01:26:38 (EDT)
Does some one need a smack in the head?
kbooth
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 14:53:19 (EDT)
does anyone have any bee gees shows they want to trade?
sk
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 12:19:42 (EDT)
hehehe, was there something worthwhile on stevie's list?
easilyamused
- Friday, August 30, 2002 at 09:26:32 (EDT)
Steve W, Sunday Camp is back in the mail to you tomorrow, emjoy
kbooth
- Thursday, August 29, 2002 at 20:55:36 (EDT)
...crying to be heard...
Stretchy
- Monday, August 26, 2002 at 20:15:01 (EDT)
plus about 50 shows sitting in a pile...
Stretchy
- Monday, August 26, 2002 at 20:12:45 (EDT)
or something... http://swindsor.web.wesleyan.edu/play/CDlist.html
Stretchy (stephenr@snet.net)
- Monday, August 26, 2002 at 20:11:27 (EDT)
haha. does stretchy have a list?!?
roflmfao
- Monday, August 26, 2002 at 13:29:57 (EDT)
Yea, I got Sunday's camp, got a list or something?
kbooth
- Sunday, August 25, 2002 at 23:23:27 (EDT)
kris, may i trade with you for Sunday's camp?
Stretchy (stephenr@snet.net)
- Sunday, August 25, 2002 at 20:22:50 (EDT)
Quit taping Tucker? Say it ain't so!!!
kbooth
- Sunday, August 25, 2002 at 14:34:51 (EDT)
i picked up a D7 because the price was right! $299 including 2 7 pin digital cables... bought it off this dude who has a studio but bought a computer to record on now.. had no need for it and only used it for 20 hours :)
FunkyZen
- Sunday, August 25, 2002 at 12:06:12 (EDT)
yeah i amaze even myself sometimes with my stupidity i was ready to quit taping and return the borrowed deck when i realized i lost my tape once i was home i took it pretty hard fror a few hours Funky what kind of deck did you get? i'm not holdin out for the tape but it would be sweet if i got it back randomly that webstah show was awsome hard straight ahead rock BREWFEST saturday whose goin aaaHHHHAAAaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
tucker (lzrrd29@aol.com)
- Sunday, August 25, 2002 at 11:39:53 (EDT)
someone mentioned Sonic Systems but I can't find the specifics...
bfree
- Sunday, August 25, 2002 at 00:56:44 (EDT)
or other platform...
bfree
- Sunday, August 25, 2002 at 00:54:53 (EDT)
looking for advice on a well designed usb hub for alternate media inputs to my PC...website to find et al...looking for 100-150 range.
bfree
- Sunday, August 25, 2002 at 00:54:22 (EDT)
i've lost the 1st set at the webster before and someone gave it back to me 4 months later randomly.
FunkyZen
- Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 15:58:05 (EDT)
yeah i've seen those.. i've also seen decks die on people *cough* sk *cough* i've patched out of who were running off them.. i'll just keep switchin at setbreak i guess until i can afford to get something nice.
FunkyZen
- Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 15:57:17 (EDT)
nice one tucker
kbooth
- Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 13:35:11 (EDT)
Anybody find a DAT tape at the webster last nite I lost the first set damn
tucker (Lzrrd29@aol.com)
- Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 13:29:08 (EDT)
A lot of people I have seen have built there own D Cell battery back which will give you about 50 hours of taping, there are instructions on how to do it on the net
kbooth
- Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 10:28:51 (EDT)
?... what do you DAT people do about power? i've heard they only go about 4 hours on ultra batteries... can't afford to get an ecocharge until next paycheck
FunkyZen
- Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 09:15:40 (EDT)
they're both hot!(that is supposed to be a punchline btw!)
:)
- Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 04:10:55 (EDT)
love candles,love handles,what's the diff? hehehe
midnightmonkey on 4am shift,nice n quiet.
- Saturday, August 24, 2002 at 04:07:53 (EDT)
i luv candlez
tapahjonezz
- Friday, August 23, 2002 at 20:06:52 (EDT)
i never denied compression.. i just said its not as bad as everyone makes it out to be
FunkyZen
- Friday, August 23, 2002 at 19:03:59 (EDT)
So now the little creep admits to compression!!!
Taper Police
- Friday, August 23, 2002 at 13:44:21 (EDT)
woohoo i bought a DAT.. no more compression! yessss i'm going to skip the laptop and just wait for a portable HD recorder to come out. the power situation with laptops would have made it nearly impossible to tape at a festival unless i got plug in power.. or only wanted to tape one or two bands a day.
FunkyZen
- Friday, August 23, 2002 at 11:26:20 (EDT)
So who is going to see Creeks 2 night stand at the Water Street Music Hall in Rochester during October. I as thinking getting a SBD patch at that show, but with my new Schoeps CMC5/MK41 coming I think the hypercardiods will deal with the poor room acoutics there better. Who wants to brave up front with me and deflect the druken beer spillers all night long. Valchy? I know you will be there.
kbooth
- Thursday, August 22, 2002 at 16:02:17 (EDT)
Checked out that motu 828. The problem is that not many portable A/D convertes used in the field with mics have firewire out yet. Once they do then this motu 828 could be pretty sweet, the technology on both ends is just not there yet.
kbooth
- Thursday, August 22, 2002 at 14:10:45 (EDT)
its all cool murray, no worries :) i don't know jack about macs really.. haven't had much experience with em besides doing some video editing back in high school. all i know is that they're far superior than pc's for audio + graphics work
FunkyZen
- Thursday, August 22, 2002 at 09:56:27 (EDT)
shut uo murray
sk
- Thursday, August 22, 2002 at 04:51:03 (EDT)
And Funkyzen, it wasn't a put down, it's how I talk. Get used to it. Didn't mean to offend. I'm just a big Apple fan, and am the first to defend it's name.
murray
- Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 21:16:56 (EDT)
The 828 is FireWire. No extra power source required, runs on laptop's battery. Costs about $749. Check it out at www.motu.com
murray
- Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 21:12:48 (EDT)
Is the Motu 828 portable? Can it be powered in the field? How much does it cost?
kbooth
- Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 20:56:20 (EDT)
i'm not clueless just because i have less of a clue than you murray :) whats up with the putdown? just say what you've gotta say brother! but anyway.. nice to hear that DP works on osX too.. this dude i know said dp3 didn't run on osX when he tried it.. but maybe he was clueless ;)
FunkyZen
- Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 18:45:32 (EDT)
Funkyzen, you are clueless, OS X is not a Unix ripoff. It enhances the usability of Unix. Apple is the number one seller of Unix currently too. And kbooth, with the Motu 828, true hard disc recording is capable. It doesn't require the audio to be processed prior to being written to disc. Also, ProTools still only runs in OS 9, but Digital Performer runs fine in OS X and is great.
murray
- Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 18:18:12 (EDT)
Thanks!!
kubiak
- Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 18:05:41 (EDT)
you've got mail
FunkyZen (phunkyzen@cox.net)
- Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 17:31:50 (EDT)
I'm a gonna try this here....I'm looking for a way to transfer a sony mini-disc show that my friend has to CD-R. I'm not having any luck, and would like to do it straight from my CPU if possible. Is there a special cable and software needed for this process, or is it as simple as a usb hook-up and drag and drop to burning software? I'm no way near a taper, I love to dance too much. I know I'll hear it because it's mini, but I'm doing this for a friend who is even more CPU illiterate then me. Any pricing or info would be greatly appreciated, I see a few people at shows that do mini, so there has to be some way...right?
kubiak (kubiak1@lycos.com)
Durango, CO - Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 17:10:11 (EDT)
too bad that they don't make any good sound editors for unix or linux.. since os X is just a ripoff of unix
FunkyZen
- Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 16:41:10 (EDT)
I understand that the powerbook is better. I am talking more from a size standpoint. Personally I have no interest in 24bit recordings until a real Hard disc recorder comes out, laptops are just an in-between technology.
kbooth
- Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 15:39:20 (EDT)
Mr. kbooth, there is no laptop on the market better than the PowerBook. Don't kid yourself. Yes the Sony may be cheaper, but it is not "just as good". The PowerBook is the only laptop on the market with L3 cache and OS X is the only operating system engineered to record 96KHz out of the box.
Your Family Apple Rep.
- Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 15:12:08 (EDT)
danks bro! it probably won't be until winter/spring until i can afford to drop 2 grand on taping equipment but hopefully by then the price will drop on these things anyway
FunkyZen
- Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 14:58:55 (EDT)
256megs of Ram should be plenty. You should call up sonicsense and talk to Marc Nutter. He sort of pioneered sony picture book solutions and could give you the low down on the pro's and cons. www.sonicsense.com
kbooth
- Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 14:34:39 (EDT)
No problem Muggsy....I think I posted the price of the V3 in my post, they are going for around $1600. If you aren't interested in doing 24bit recordings than the V2 is perfect and they just dropped in price big time, you can pick them up for around $900, get one before they stop making them.
kbooth
- Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 14:26:03 (EDT)
thanks KRIS, sorry about calling you keith all the time, mental block i guess. thanks for the info. and all, but what are we talking for prices?
muggsy
- Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 08:41:53 (EDT)
those picture books seem cool.. they do seem like they'd have some issues though.. max ram in them is 256megs.. i'd want more than that if i'm doing audio work so it doesn't crash n' burn with the quality of winblows. i'll figure it out eventually.. those picturebooks seem like they have potential if you can put more ram in em'
FunkyZen
- Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 08:35:47 (EDT)
I see your point maybe from a software side, I am speaking more from a size point a view. Luggin a big laptop around is a pain and the picture book is about as big as my DA-P1
kbooth
- Tuesday, August 20, 2002 at 18:33:29 (EDT)
you think? from everything i've heard + read MAC's bead PC's hands down on audio work
FunkyZen
- Tuesday, August 20, 2002 at 18:06:51 (EDT)
I would go with one of those Sony Picture books, way smaller and just as good
kbooth
- Tuesday, August 20, 2002 at 18:04:32 (EDT)
yeah man.. i'll hafta figure something out.. haha maybe take out a loan. powerbooks are basically double the price of ibooks.. buttt.. everyone knows you get what you pay for especially when it comes to electronics
FunkyZen
- Tuesday, August 20, 2002 at 15:20:31 (EDT)
The 828 provides eight channels of balanced/unbalanced analog input and output using 24-bit converters with 105 dB dynamic range. Eight channels of 24-bit ADAT lightpipe and stereo S/PDIF I/O provide a grand total of 18 simultaneous inputs and outputs. Analog inputs one and two are designed for maximum flexibility. They use Neutrik XLR/TRS combo connectors so you can plug anything from a microphone to a guitar into the same jack. If you prefer to use condenser microphones, you can apply 48-volt phantom power. Each input provides 40dB of gain with convenient front panel trim knobs. Like our PCI-324 card, the 828 features an ADAT sync input jack for sample accurate audio transfers with Alesis ADATs, or any device that supports ADAT sync. A pedal input allows you to plug-in a footswitch for hands-free punch-in recording. The 828 software auto-senses pedal polarity for easy setup. A built in international power supply uses a standard IEC cable. No noisy wall warts or line lumps to keep track of.
m
- Tuesday, August 20, 2002 at 11:57:09 (EDT)
Muggsy....IT'S KRIS!!!!!, not Keith. Anyways, since I have never seen ABB before I have no point of reference to what a good or bad show is. I though it was great. If you want a good pre-amp then Grace Designs V3 would be the way to go. I have the V2, the V3 just came out and has the same pre-amp as the V2 but it also has a bitchin A/D converter in it that can do 24bit up to 192kHz. The SBM-1 by Sony is not made any more but you can find them on ebay. They go for around $450 on ebay and I also got mine upgraded by oade.com for another $250. Personally, if one was looking to get a pre-amp and A/D converter you can't go wrong with the Lunatec V3, but it does cost around $1600.
kbooth (kbooth@rochester.rr.com)
- Tuesday, August 20, 2002 at 10:49:57 (EDT)
hey keith, what's a decent pre-amp cost these days? how about that sbm a/d converter? i'm suremy abb show came out great, i was in the 11th row, but it was the weakest performance i ever saw from them
muggsy
- Tuesday, August 20, 2002 at 10:35:00 (EDT)
Get the Powerbook. Get a refurbished one if you have to. Then get Motu's FireWire 828. A match made in heaven...
m
- Tuesday, August 20, 2002 at 10:11:43 (EDT)
Coll Funky!!!! Just let me know. Just got back from taping the Allman Brothers and Galatic. Galatic was good but the Allmans just blew the roof off the joint, pulled some sweet tapes.
kbooth
- Sunday, August 18, 2002 at 01:29:07 (EDT)
well.. the laptop will come first to get me away from compression. then eventually i'll get the whole deal.. i plan on getting an Apple powerbook if I can afford it.. an Ibook if I can't. when i'm ready i'll talk to you about what kind of mics/preamp i should get... that setup you have is SICK!
FunkyZen
- Saturday, August 17, 2002 at 15:30:51 (EDT)
Hey Funky...when you get your labtop do you plan to patch or get the whole deal, mics and all. With a labtop the new Grace Designs V3 would be perfect, has the same pre-amp as the v2 along with a real nice A/D converter all in one.
kbooth
- Saturday, August 17, 2002 at 15:26:06 (EDT)
muggsy.. my copies came from SHN's from a DAT source out of a $6500 rig. no compression there. can't wait til i get my laptop.. then i'll be doing 24 bit uncompressed 96khz.. twice as good as you dat freaks :)
FunkyZen
- Saturday, August 17, 2002 at 14:22:24 (EDT)
Muggsy's copys have bird droppings on them.
Tweet Tweet
- Saturday, August 17, 2002 at 08:47:09 (EDT)
Check the specs? SHN is lossless compression, and will sound just as good. The question is, what kind of rig did your tapes come from? Or do you have a SBD copy?
kbooth
- Friday, August 16, 2002 at 15:31:50 (EDT)
i'll be taking care of that for him, in fact it's done, i'm sure he'd rather have my copy which won't be compressed like yours.......just check the specs, specs do not lie!
muggsy
- Friday, August 16, 2002 at 12:49:56 (EDT)
is anyone doing this for costa? if not then i'll do it eventually for ya :) i'm just waiting for the dat source shn files to come in.. probably won't get em by lupos but hopefully i should have em by the webster. by the way.. looks like SHN will go out the window soon. http://wiki.etree.org/index.php?page=FLAC
FunkyZen
- Friday, August 16, 2002 at 11:01:03 (EDT)
hey, somebody want to make me a copy of sunday camp, Please? see you at lupo's
costa
- Tuesday, August 13, 2002 at 21:39:49 (EDT)
as soon as paulie comes up with some new material then i will use it
sk
- Saturday, August 10, 2002 at 15:44:37 (EDT)
BIG B
Zip It
- Tuesday, August 06, 2002 at 22:22:20 (EDT)
says you taperjones!
Unusual James
- Tuesday, August 06, 2002 at 09:22:30 (EDT)
....you guys gotta find some new material...thats gettin old...hey kris...you got mail...and whats the word on the sbd's at camp...
TaperJones
amston lake, ct - Monday, August 05, 2002 at 22:27:22 (EDT)
Screw the Taperjones Bobblehead Dolls, I want me an sk Bobblehead Doll, the very first name in taping is sk, not taperjones.
Weird Jimmy
- Monday, August 05, 2002 at 12:07:53 (EDT)
Taper, got a bitchin AUD of both nights at Camp, interested?
kbooth (kbooth@rochester.rr.com)
Rochacha, - Sunday, August 04, 2002 at 23:50:48 (EDT)
...hey boris....i need your e mail...
TaperJones
- Sunday, August 04, 2002 at 22:55:20 (EDT)
sk, I "over-used" my D8 for several years- I really beat the snot out of it- without ever getting it serviced or cleaning the heads. After it munched a tape I tried to fix it and made things worse. I think as long as you keep the heads clean and get it serviced maybe once a year, it should be a well-behaved deck.
Dr. Alamo
- Sunday, August 04, 2002 at 11:43:54 (EDT)
hey all, i know it's early to ask but I'm a camp creeker looking to relive some of the beauty that was last weekend and unfortunatly still haven't got the cash together to get my own taping equipment. so if any one has any of the sets on cd-r yet i'd be interested in either a trade or b&p for it especially max creek, gordon stone, derek trucks, uncle sammy, and david gans but anything else is much appreciated. my partial list is at www.geocities.com/bhgrantuvm/ otherwise i can e-mail an updated txt file. thanks and love to you all
brian grant (bhgrant@zoo.uvm.edu)
mahopac, ny - Sunday, August 04, 2002 at 01:26:32 (EDT)
I just got an email from some oceanographer who's been using one of those external d-cell battery packs for his D8. I know some Creeksters use a similar setup- with a D8 you can get upwards of 12-15 hours of life from one of them. This guy said he hooked 2 packs together in parallel (+ to + and - to -) and more than tripled the life of a single battery pack. I guess that would mean around 40 or more hours - yeeha! Ideal for those marathon festivals...
Dr. Alamo
- Friday, August 02, 2002 at 13:26:54 (EDT)
welp, i guess it wasn't you i patched out of, all you tapers look the same!
muggsy
- Friday, August 02, 2002 at 10:55:49 (EDT)
Ahhh, wait, you mean the audio technica shock mounts I use. The MBHO are smaller mics so the shock mount looks like part of them. That was me you saw......hehe, duh!!!
kbooth
- Friday, August 02, 2002 at 02:44:52 (EDT)
That last statment was my set up at Camp. At party in the park I was dead center about 50' from the stage.
kbooth
- Friday, August 02, 2002 at 02:41:44 (EDT)
Saturday night I was dead center in front of the SBD. Sunday I was right in front of the SBD taper table. Using MBHO's all weekend.
kbooth
- Friday, August 02, 2002 at 02:40:02 (EDT)
did you have audio technica shells? I looked for you and didn't see...you right in front of the table? i spied a lunatec set up,but no connection since i expected the mics to say mbho on them...
bfree
- Friday, August 02, 2002 at 00:45:21 (EDT)
Are you refferring to the party in the park in rochester DTB? I didn't tape Trucks at Camp. Anyways here is the source info, MBHO(603+KA200N)-->Lunatec V2-->MODSBM-1-->DA-P1@44.1kHz
kbooth
- Thursday, August 01, 2002 at 15:25:37 (EDT)
yep, i meant you, please post the equip. we used for the dtb
muggsy
- Thursday, August 01, 2002 at 12:57:55 (EDT)
sk....I have had NO problems with the D8 since I got it off you (other then it feels like a "Fisher Price, my first DAT"...ha ha ha)
Pickle
- Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 20:53:10 (EDT)
When you say Keith are you reffering to me? Its Kris, not Keith :) If you are refferring to me respond back and I will post my rig
kbooth
- Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 15:34:07 (EDT)
i have a d8 that's been very very reliable for about 2 1/2 years, and there's no doubt i over-used it, i used it for masters and for playback at home, earlier this year several tapes kept on getting jammed inside the machine, so i bought a used m 100 that seems to be highly reliable, so in the not too distant future i'm going to send my d8 back for repairs as i bought it with a 5 year guarantee, and i've always used 90M DATS, don't know if that was the ultimate source of my problems or that i finally over-used the thing, but it was pretty reliable up until that time...........pick, have you had any problems with it recently? and hey keith, how about that info on your mics/pre-amp, and converter so that i can make my dtb tape official........thx!!!
muggsy
- Wednesday, July 31, 2002 at 15:27:45 (EDT)
It's not the length Pickle, its the thickness of the tape, and I am just talking about the D7 and D8 since they use 1/2 size heads. I don't know a ton about the D100, but if it uses 1/2 size heads then it could have the same problem. The thinner tape is more likely to stretch, allowing the oxide coating to deposit on the head assembly of the deck. Once that oxide coating gets on the head it will harden and start to rip tapes up and cause all sorts of problems including messing up the heads. I have seen people use 90m tapes with no problems in their sony portables, and I have also seen people use them and wreck their deck very quickly. I am just warning people that you could have problems using 90m tape in those decks. Don't have to head my warning, but I know what I am talking about.
kbooth
- Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 23:55:10 (EDT)
Then I proceeded to use that same D100 for the next 3 years. 5 years, no problems!! And yes, I used 90 meter tapes! If you think it is the "length" of a tape that messes up the heads, try thinking again.
Pickle
- Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 22:32:47 (EDT)
I bought a D8 new and it broke after 2 weeks. I then bought a D100 new and taped every Creek show for 2 years without a problem.
Carl
- Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 19:35:55 (EDT)
and as far as rechargeable batteries go, eco charge and pro dat make some very nice SLA batteries. They aren't cheap but I love them. You can also make your own SLA battery if you are good with that kind of thing.
kbooth
- Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 18:54:18 (EDT)
hmmmm.....the problem people have with many DAT decks and I see it all the time is that they rush when loading tapes because they don't want a big break in te music. The problem with jamming on the buttons and forcing the deck to deal with load, then record and play, etc all at once is that it JAMS the deck up. If you keep things clean, take good care of the deck and be careful when loading tapes and just let it completely load before you start trying to record you should have few problems. Things to remember though, D7's are 10 or more years old now, they came out in the early 90's. So they can have issues from time to time. I bought my D8 about 4 years ago, tapes about 150 hours worth of music on it, have yet to have a single problem with hit. I have seen more D7's and D8 in the field that are beat to hell and not taken very good care of. Treat it with the respect it deserves and you should be fine. Also clean the heads after every 30 hours or so, keep it fresh, that thing has a lot of moving parts in it. Another big no no is the use of 90m tapes in the Sony D7 and D8's. I see people do it all the time and you are just asking for trouble on the long run. 90m tapes will eventually jam up your deck and sometimes will even unalign the heads. They 90m tapes will also wear our your heads very quickly. Case in point, JRob meet a guy at the Vibes that used 90m tape all the time with his D7, was bragging about how he never had a problem in 2 years. Jrob told him he was asking for it and they guy said that he was wrong. Well, 20 minutes later he was back all pissed because his 90m tapes jammed is deck, unaligned the heads and made it so he couldn't tape the rest of the weekend. If you can get Jrobs, SBM-1 with it then you have a real nice Combo, I love my SBM-1, and for $250 oade.com will do a very nice upgrade on it.
kbooth
- Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 18:52:01 (EDT)
thanks for the info! yeah man i've been looking into external power supplies for it if i do decide to get it.. found one for $180 that will give one deck 20 hours of power on one rechargable battery.. thats plenty for a festival. 48 isn't that bad.. just need to convert it to 44.1 if i wanna give people copies but i'm sure i'll figure it out. i've read some reviews and some people have complained about the tape loader getting misaligned after minimal use.. anything like that happen to you?
FunkyZen
- Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 17:12:13 (EDT)
FunkyZen, since I was the one that got the D7 for Jeff I can speak to your question. The D7 and D8 are great little decks. The only draw back to a D7 is that it can't record at 44.1 my itself. It can record a 44.1 signal if it's receiving it from a digi parch, or if you have a SBM-1 sitting in front of it. If you go analog in you can only record at 48 or 32. The D8 added gold platted input jacks and the ability to record at 44.1. I have a D8 and a Tascam DA-P1 and I love them both. Glad I had both at Camp this year or I wouldn't have been able to record all the shows I wanted to since the DA-P1 is such a power hog, 4 Durcell ultra's in my D8 will give me 4-5 hours of power.
kbooth
- Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 16:50:14 (EDT)
what do you guys think of the D7?? i may be scoring one at a sweet price
FunkyZen
- Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 16:23:39 (EDT)
I got a bitchin AUD of both days of Camp Creek. Saturday night being really incredible. Sounds better than the soundboard if you ask me. I don't understand people's infatuation with the SBD all the time, it really isn't all that it is cracked up to be. Be happy to hook you up if you are interested.
kbooth (kbooth@rochester.rr.com)
Rochacha, NY - Tuesday, July 30, 2002 at 00:32:15 (EDT)
I am sitting here looking at alllllllllll the candles. yessss.
Taperjones
- Monday, July 29, 2002 at 23:36:47 (EDT)
im not demanding or anything lol i know it was just yestarday and it takes Time and everyones tired so dont worry about Time:)
dogpatch
- Monday, July 29, 2002 at 22:12:20 (EDT)
heynow im sure youre busy but if there is anyone that got some camp creek material sbd they can burn me, ill send discs, postage, and phil saturday nite @ vibes on disc id like to get this done soon so PLEASE get back to me either here or thro email i am looking for gans, trucks, creek, sammy, ect please help me out and thanks for spreading the music many rely on you and you guys are grate
dogpatch (milkdrinker29@gosignup.com)
- Monday, July 29, 2002 at 21:31:43 (EDT)
whats up folks! can anybody me out with some creek cds/tapes PLEASE i had a stroke and im in scotland with the parents! it sucks with no creek!my tapes were stolen while i was in hospital. i could send money to cover blanks/postage thanks a lot!
steve (holtansa@hotmail.com)
dunoon, - Friday, July 26, 2002 at 08:14:24 (EDT)
check out my new girlfriend! www.realdoll.com
sk
- Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 23:44:17 (EDT)
HEY BABY WANNA SEE MY CANDLES.........YESSSSSSSSSSSS
Taperjones
- Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 19:27:19 (EDT)
Pickle-duude,at P+F u told me 2 remind u about bringing me a few tapes!.......thanx--peaceout
tOmmY
- Thursday, July 25, 2002 at 00:09:00 (EDT)
here Tans: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/maxcreek-lossless/
shnister
- Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 22:29:48 (EDT)
Anyone need camp creek tix? Something came up at the last second, and we can't go. Trying to get rid of them for less than face. How's 3 for $100? (tix are now i THINK $50 apiece). Throw me an email srhollings@cs.com
Steve hworth (srhollings@cs.com)
Boston, MA - Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 08:19:15 (EDT)
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE can someone point me in the right direction for a copy of the 7/6/02 Gathering of the Vibe show. It was my first Max Creek experience and it BLEW ME AWAY!!! Please help. Peace. Bloomer.
Jeff Bloom (bloom@eandmpower.com)
Binghamton, N.Y. - Wednesday, July 24, 2002 at 07:05:59 (EDT)
in baseball it's different: it's the yankees that win championships (well most of the time anyway), keep dreaming about those pats though, if the pats win the super bowl i will personally shave my head on-stage at camp creek this summer! sk - Friday, January 18, 2002 at 12:00:04 (EST) [204.89.226.65]
reminder
- Tuesday, July 23, 2002 at 16:44:49 (EDT)
Ok, who is taping the headshaving? :)
kbooth
- Monday, July 22, 2002 at 19:24:43 (EDT)
Camp Creek Band Schedule 4:37 PM 7/22/2002

Friday, July 26th. (TENT)
David Gans - 5:45-6:45P
Grapes - 7:00-8:30P
Uncle Sammy - 9:15-11:1<,br>Bomb Squad - 12:00 -2:00A

Saturday, July 27th.
SCSJB (TENT) - 11:00A-12:15P
Eamon Cronin Band - 12:30-1:45P
Big Wu - 2:30-4:00P
Robert Randolph - 4:45-6:15P
SK Head Shaving 6:30P
Max Creek - 7:00P-1:00A
Entrain (TENT) - 1:15-2:30A

Sunday, July 28th.
Gordon Stone Band - 10:00 -11:00A
Tom Tom Club - 11:15A-12:30P
Derek Trucks Band - 1:00-2:30P
Max Creek - 3:00-6:30P

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- Monday, July 22, 2002 at 18:25:59 (EDT)


I can't help with Creek, but I do have candles if your interested,,,
Taperjones
- Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 18:03:37 (EDT)
Anybody know where that Yahoo! club is with all the Creek shows that are around in .shn? I'm looking for 11-24-99 from the LR. If anybody happens to have them and wants to trade db.etree.org/tans ..peace thanks Tans
Tans (mtansley@mail.com )
- Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 17:53:21 (EDT)
knock it off sk
BUZZ
- Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 14:16:21 (EDT)
My candles make me feel pretty.
Taperjones
- Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 12:54:21 (EDT)
I hear ya KBooth.This page is a joke now.
*
- Wednesday, July 17, 2002 at 22:16:52 (EDT)
in baseball it's different: it's the yankees that win championships (well most of the time anyway), keep dreaming about those pats though, if the pats win the super bowl i will personally shave my head on-stage at camp creek this summer! sk - Friday, January 18, 2002 at 12:00:04 (EST) [204.89.226.65]
tick tock
- Wednesday, July 17, 2002 at 17:29:10 (EDT)
Yea, seriously, these last post suck, what happened to the taper forum I use to know
kbooth
- Wednesday, July 17, 2002 at 04:06:49 (EDT)
Do you know the band pays for the band width here? What a waste.
*
- Wednesday, July 17, 2002 at 00:33:13 (EDT)
cause nobody else will
!
- Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 17:53:27 (EDT)
I enjoy myself
sk
- Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 17:41:40 (EDT)
We are now also selling dildos as well as candles. The candles kept breaking off.
CT Candles n Things
- Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 16:58:21 (EDT)
roses are red violets are blue, i`m schitzophrenic, and so am i
sk
- Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 16:13:51 (EDT)
Sk, so you mean after all these years, Buzz is still schitzophrenic? Some things never change.
Guac
- Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 16:10:36 (EDT)
nice job sk, drive a few more people away
BUZZ
- Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 15:37:40 (EDT)
that wasn't me below, buzz was posting as me again
sk
- Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 09:52:37 (EDT)
howdy tapers... keep spinning... :) sunshine and smiles,
stiney
- Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 09:24:49 (EDT)
Fine, I'll take my comments elsewhere. Do you guys own just this site, or all the ones what start with www?
Guac
- Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 06:05:36 (EDT)
Yeah, get your music somewhere else!
sk
- Monday, July 15, 2002 at 22:12:00 (EDT)
just kidding man, that was for old times sake, great to hear from you
BUZZ
- Monday, July 15, 2002 at 22:11:17 (EDT)
Well isn't that a nice how do you do?
Guac
- Monday, July 15, 2002 at 20:10:16 (EDT)
shut up Guac!
BUZZ
- Monday, July 15, 2002 at 19:07:14 (EDT)
Hi folks! Long time no post. Two small unrelated events recently transpired in my life that cause me to post this now. First, I got a new vehicle with a CD player, no cassettes anymore (Which was a good thing, because i stopped listening to cassettes in the car because they kept melting). Second, my antenna broke on my radio at work, so only the CD player is functional. So I started listening to live music again after a long break, although I don't have much on CD. Some assorted Dicks Picks and one fine Creek show from 12/5/98. I was wondering if anyone would want to trade another SBD for that show? The show is a nice show recorded from the soundboard to DAT to CD. There is 1 second of 'diginoise' in Leaves, but otherwise clean and clear. I haven't heard a new Creek show since NYE 1999-2000. I think I'm overdue. Thanks!
The Symbol Formerly Known As Guac (treefarn@yahoo.com)
- Monday, July 15, 2002 at 17:20:38 (EDT)
We put the HOMO back in homeowner
CT Candles n Things
- Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 19:36:06 (EDT)
Thats the problem bfree, there are no good hard disc recorders on the market yet. For the time being people use labtops, but I don't think that is the wave of the future. I can see someone like a Tascam coming out with a unit similar to the DA-P1 but with 120 gig Hard drive in it and 24bit 96kHz recordings, that would be sweet!!!!
kbooth
- Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 16:19:41 (EDT)
from now on it will no longer be all about me 24-7, 24-6 and 23-1 will be then new standard, i need at least one hour a week to myself
BUZZ
- Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 12:30:28 (EDT)
...PS...it is NO LONGER about Buzz....it is truely a sad day in wonderland.
Bob Cosell
- Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 12:20:53 (EDT)
hmmm...a hard disc recorder...how much do those go for? can I input from firewire TO one of those as well?
bfree
- Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 12:19:22 (EDT)
taper jones we need directions man
stretchy (stephenr@snet.net)
- Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 11:38:29 (EDT)
thats interesting
sk
- Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 09:43:35 (EDT)
hmmm...when I transfer I use the coxial digital in on my Audiophillle 2496 sound card, straight digital feed from my DA-P1. Sounds like you are talking about a firewire port, which would be perfect if you had a hard disk recorder
kbooth
- Sunday, July 14, 2002 at 01:20:39 (EDT)
When you connect your dat to your PC,do you use an IEEE port? If so,I can master shows to cd to tree,if someone wanted to come to my place for an evening to upload an evening of Creek.Let me know.
bfree
- Saturday, July 13, 2002 at 17:34:45 (EDT)
and to add, Taping Dereck Trucks and Strangefolk in Rochester, then Camp Creek, the Grateful Jam the next weekend, and the Allman's the weekend after that, so I still get to see lots of shows :)
kbooth
- Friday, July 12, 2002 at 14:56:27 (EDT)
My priorites are split now, one part taping, one part family guy, just can't wait tell my son is old enough to keep the levels straight so dad can go off and get drunk :)
kbooth
- Friday, July 12, 2002 at 14:54:54 (EDT)
kbooth, where are your priorities man? you have a wife, let her take care of the baby, you should be off having fun!
sk
- Friday, July 12, 2002 at 08:51:43 (EDT)
I wasn't at the vibes, with a new baby in the house I could go to the vibes or Camp Creek, and I never miss a Camp Creek, can't wait to do that one up and test out my new preamp
kbooth
- Friday, July 12, 2002 at 03:53:22 (EDT)
i specifically heard that it was the feed to the taper section that was beat..the board itself was good...how did you fare with the wind kb?
bfree
- Friday, July 12, 2002 at 02:10:21 (EDT)
SK, glad to hear the SBD for Creek came out good, I heard they had a lot of issues with the SBD during the festival. I am just addicted to doing AUD tapes now, want to try and do a SBD matrix though.
kbooth
- Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 14:55:29 (EDT)
taper, what are you complaining about? i didn't see anyone posting as you? i saw buzz posting as me, living his gay fantasy's........kbooth, wrong, the sbd for gotv for creek came out great!
sk
- Thursday, July 11, 2002 at 14:43:49 (EDT)
Taper, would be happy to do up the Creek show from Vibes for you. Some wind in it, but a good recording, real excited now for Camp Creek, got my new Lunatec V2 preamp coming and I am getting my SBM-1 upgraded my oade.com, should pull a sweet tape.
kbooth (kbooth@rochester.rr.com)
Rochester, NY - Wednesday, July 10, 2002 at 17:59:37 (EDT)
I thought B+P is when the guy puts his P in my B
sk
- Wednesday, July 10, 2002 at 17:51:53 (EDT)
here is a page that gives some guidelines for B/P
http://www.mcnichol.com/bnp/
i thought it was interesting

BUZZ
- Wednesday, July 10, 2002 at 17:32:49 (EDT)
Anyone out there have last years and this years Les Claypool sets from the Vibes they can spin me on Analog or disc? Have tons of Creek to trade....Thanks.
uj (basstonelowb@hotmail.com)
- Wednesday, July 10, 2002 at 10:06:08 (EDT)
...I wish people would stop posting as me...i can have scott shut this page down if you want...hey kris...keep me in mind...peace...
TaperJones
amston lake, ct - Tuesday, July 09, 2002 at 23:04:19 (EDT)
I got a nice AUD of the Vibes show, a little wind here and there but over all nice. SBD patch at Vibes from what I heard was a mess and sounded like crap. Still need to transfer the DAT to my PC and cut it up for a CD
kbooth (kbooth@rochester.rr.com)
Rochester, NY - Tuesday, July 09, 2002 at 21:00:51 (EDT)
i was wondering if anyone taped creek at the vibes saturday, soundboard! please let me know thro email>i would like to send cds and postage>if not sbd, i will take good aud>thanks:-D john molo huh!
dogpatch (milkdrinker29@gosignup.com)
- Monday, July 08, 2002 at 22:31:03 (EDT)
shut up sk
TaperJones
- Monday, July 08, 2002 at 18:48:17 (EDT)
and only 201 more until his retirement!!!
sk
- Monday, July 08, 2002 at 09:50:09 (EDT)
One more show and I will have 800 Creek shows!!
799 Max Creek Shows

TaperJones
- Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 23:45:12 (EDT)
once again...11-24-00...I need a digital copy of this show,preferrably one transferred to cd from dat.
bfree
- Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 19:15:04 (EDT)
Thanks, TaperJones -- and enjoy the disks! And hey, anyone else out there want to do some CD trading sometime?
Boris Kolba (kolbab@newpaltz.edu)
Montclair, NJ - Wednesday, July 03, 2002 at 11:39:51 (EDT)
...hey Boris from NJ...just got the 5/25/02 in the mail today...yours going out this weekend...peace...hey Rick...got the 1/7/89 complete...thanks man...
TaperJones
amston lake, ct - Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 22:20:59 (EDT)
niiiice!
raving and drooling
- Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 20:23:05 (EDT)
but, nobody else look at that page, most of all sk
BUZZ
- Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 19:00:10 (EDT)
bfree, i noticed your posts about floyd shows i thought this page may interest you http://harvested.org/
BUZZ
- Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 18:52:09 (EDT)
you can all suck my big black dick!
sk
- Tuesday, July 02, 2002 at 14:55:19 (EDT)
...hey kris...i am still looking for 5/22/02 ND 6/7/02...
TaperJones
amston lake, ct - Monday, July 01, 2002 at 22:31:13 (EDT)
looking for a cd copy of the turkey show from the webster with pevar and Poet...pleeeeze? need help!!!
bfree
- Monday, July 01, 2002 at 12:42:29 (EDT)
Taper, have not heard from you in awhile. Got my own rig, taped Bison farm and party in the park, party in the park is a real gem, bison is good also. What else new do you have on DAT, be happy to clone for you. Drop me an email
kbooth (kbooth@rochester.rr.com)
Rocheseter, - Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 23:37:34 (EDT)
geez sk,you don't know me by now? What are you implying?If you think that I'm that type of person,well,I just don't know...hehehe.. Wanna make a copy of a show for me?..;)..someone email you to ask what was up or what?!..If the house is a rockin,don't bother knockin,(just a come on in!)..call me at 677-8860 after 6pm tonight.
bfree
- Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 10:11:37 (EDT)
are we on the same page here bfree? i was referring to our chat the other day on the telly
sk
- Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 09:30:31 (EDT)
yes,in fact,I will be bearing gifts.been awhile.hoping to have 1,maybe 2 newbies with me.Where better to start?
bfree
- Wednesday, June 26, 2002 at 20:54:59 (EDT)
bfree, what up? will i be seeing you at the room on saturday? will you be bearing gifts?
sk
- Wednesday, June 26, 2002 at 15:34:35 (EDT)
or,rather,what do you feel..like playing?
bfree
- Tuesday, June 25, 2002 at 20:25:29 (EDT)
Tracking for 6-16-75,disc 1.Dogs,Shine On pts 1-5,Cigar,Shine On pts 6-9,Speak To Me,Breathe,Run,Time--disc 2.Breathe Reprise,Great Gig,Money,Us and Them,Any Colour,Brain Damage,Eclipse.E:Echoes (great!)......putting this up tonight.My desk has been cleared of all that needed to be sent out.Maybe x will dust off some more floyd chords eh? That would be kind.The Room would work.What do you think?
bfree
- Tuesday, June 25, 2002 at 20:23:49 (EDT)
no one should keep good film off the street.
bfree
- Monday, June 24, 2002 at 20:15:17 (EDT)
don't sweat it! ;)
bfree
- Monday, June 24, 2002 at 20:07:59 (EDT)
hey bfree, you seem to have alot of movies, keep me in mind if you run across any gladiator movies
sk
- Monday, June 24, 2002 at 18:38:56 (EDT)
6-16-75...audience...gave it a B...Animals,WYWH,DSOTM material,with an Echoes encore.2 cds.I need to send out what's sitting on my desk here...plus my PC is configured for something else already.Give me towards the end of the week and post for me again,or e me.
bfree (midnight_monkey2@yahoo.com)
- Monday, June 24, 2002 at 11:02:32 (EDT)
hey bfree>ta>i dont have any discs>yes im still interested, wait till i get some blanks i suppose=)what show is it?
dogpatch
- Sunday, June 23, 2002 at 20:06:31 (EDT)
hey dogpatch,long time no post.I can burn again! Were you still interested in the Random Precision Pink Floyd show? if so leave a post....maybe a trade? Peace.
bfree
- Saturday, June 22, 2002 at 23:03:12 (EDT)
oh plus i am having a graduation party august twenty forth in mariaville>email me if youre interested, since youll all invited.........
dogpatch (milkdrinker29@gosignup.com)
- Saturday, June 22, 2002 at 22:30:51 (EDT)
i want queensryche cds>email me
dogpatch (milkdrinker29@gosignup.com)
- Saturday, June 22, 2002 at 22:27:31 (EDT)
...hey mark M...your 1/12/01 went out today...enjoy...
TaperJones
amston lake, ct - Thursday, June 20, 2002 at 18:45:57 (EDT)
don't get me wrong,I'm dying to here the show again Period(sorry sk)..but I like it both ways I guess ;))
HoJos
- Thursday, June 20, 2002 at 16:24:05 (EDT)
on another note,I heard from someone about the Lupos show,that x's tunes came out good on the sbd.would love a listen.
bfree
- Thursday, June 20, 2002 at 16:18:28 (EDT)
my 5/4/02 tape did not come out because i ran out of panty shields
sk
- Wednesday, June 19, 2002 at 15:33:50 (EDT)
Recently picked up a nice audience of 5/25/02 on CD/SHN, and looking to trade it (my only Creek on CD) or anything else for that matter for some more high-grade Creek. Please drop me a line! Best wishes to all - - Boris
Boris Kolba (kolbab@newpaltz.edu)
Montclair, NJ - Tuesday, June 18, 2002 at 23:45:52 (EDT)
...you mean 5/4/02...your copy that didnt come out at alllllllll...
TaperJones
amston lake, ct - Tuesday, June 18, 2002 at 22:36:44 (EDT)
The unkindest cut of all!
Stretchy
Ouch, - Tuesday, June 18, 2002 at 18:39:21 (EDT)
yeah, and nice cut by you during outside of home from the webster
sk
- Tuesday, June 18, 2002 at 10:11:07 (EDT)
TAPERJONES : good point on the rite aid batteries.
SK : zip it!
LEWD : buy a magazine and get lost.
Thank You!

Taper Police (TaperPolice@aol.com)
tapercities, ct - Monday, June 17, 2002 at 21:55:01 (EDT)
...sk...your still alive???...i thought the cookie monster ate you...ohhhh well...and as for "padding" the stats...ya...i know its hard to believe that on my tapelist, theres a "complete" show count...but not everyone uses RITE-AID batteries...thus the term "uncut"...
TaperJones
amston lake, ct - Monday, June 17, 2002 at 21:45:42 (EDT)
sk; you left your boxer shorts in the back seat of my car again
lewd
- Monday, June 17, 2002 at 20:33:59 (EDT)
you counted many of them twice taperjones, we know how you like to "pad" the statistics
sk
- Monday, June 17, 2002 at 11:36:22 (EDT)
ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!
?
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 14:14:16 (EDT)
you're welcome bfree...Lsun i haven't forgotten about you...
Stretchy
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 10:29:40 (EDT)
...i just scrolled thru my "max creek" section of my tape list...did i really collect allllllllllll of those...
TaperJones
amston lake, ct - Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 01:20:16 (EDT)
...hey bfree...bass and pickerel...
TaperJones
amston lake, ct - Friday, June 14, 2002 at 18:54:30 (EDT)
you find out what gets stocked in there? maybe some bass?...lsun,yeah,my mind was in a funk....stretch,great stuff man.....maxlander,cds will be out tomorrow....jonesing for maxology! camp??....peace.
bfree
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 23:38:16 (EDT)
...ya...24 feet down and the water is still clear...thats one clean lake...i just picked up my fishing license too...maybe this weekend sometime between the yard work, i'll get to cast the line out...
TaperJones
amston lake, ct - Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 20:57:56 (EDT)
huh?... bfree... there's no need mah friend... my post was merely referin' to certain other peoples who hit shows w/ things othah than music an' such as their goals... certainly not referin' to anyone who's found their way in here...
LSun
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 20:28:08 (EDT)
send those to your mailbox...as of april '01 it was second.alot can happen in a year though......to be able to see down 21-24 feet with clarity,that's just unheard of.
bfree
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 18:09:56 (EDT)
...and yes...Lollipop Beach is one of the beaches here on amston lake...and this whole place......ROCKSSSSSSSSS...
TaperJones
amston lake, ct - Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 21:11:51 (EDT)
...hey bfree...thats interesting...i thought it was the cleanest lake in CT...tho I do know for a fact it's the only body of water left in CT that has never been 'polluted"...did you find that imformation on-line...if so...send a link...thanks...
"5/4/02" Is already on CD and is ready for STRECHY to copy...I am hoping to connect with him soon...

TaperJones
amston lake, ct - Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 21:09:32 (EDT)
2nd cleanest body in CT.impressive to say the least.
bfree
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 09:42:28 (EDT)
Lollipop Beach rocks!
Big Boat
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 22:54:39 (EDT)
...alright....who taped 5/25/02 and 6/7/02...
TaperJones (TaperJones@aol.com)
amston lake, ct - Monday, June 10, 2002 at 22:41:03 (EDT)
yeah bfree...haha...and then some...you've done nothing i haven't done...
Stretchy
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 22:04:28 (EDT)
joeRyan,you have mail....
*
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 20:19:17 (EDT)
I think i'm gonna write a book,it'll be called,"How to Alienate Anyone Who Ever Befriended You"....not like the old days,when no one knew me,and I could hide my trained stupidity under my shadow....i suppose i should have some ego and delete this post...but you can't be free if you're not being real.
bfree
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 20:18:19 (EDT)
hey lsun,yeah,and these bands actually come to your town and play in cool concert halls with groovy folk dancin everywhere! It's a trip!(so i'm told)...ok,to make amends for my foot in mouth...I will put together a tape(if no objection or technical issue comes up) of highlights from The Jeff Pevar group(4-13-02 at the Maple Tree),with Scott Murawski sitting in,with guest drummer Scott Allshouse joining for a tune.This was a great show,and few creekers were able to be in attendance.This will be one vhs tape,with filler from assorted sources(new years '99,Jonesfest '00).I will hook up the first two to contact me,plus lsun for implying he might think that way.I do ask that you respect this tape and the musicians on it,and that you invite friends from this Forum over to view it with you,if possible.(Just a note,I may send out 1st gens,to keep the hours down on my heads and preserve my masters.It's still good,but if you copy it again,it may show visibly.).Please keep it 'in the family',so that I can continue to do what I do.Peace.And sorry again for the meaningless rant.Later.
bfree (midnightmonkey@snet.net)
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 19:57:36 (EDT)
fuck....I misread that post,and then figured it out as i submitted it,and then i couldn't retract my post.i HATE that.SO,please ignore the post below,and I will give the reply i should have given after this one!!!
bfree
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 19:32:58 (EDT)
What??.for some reason,and,please correct me if I'm wrong,but that comment seems quite out of line.If I had been taping it I would do it myself.Are you saying you'd rather not receive anything if it was offered to you because you 'should have been there'? No one asked me to come here and post that.I don't understand why you would make a post like that.So people shouldn't ask for copies of shows? I do apologize if I have over-responded to this,but I just don't get the comment.Who did you wrong? Me??
bfree
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 19:29:03 (EDT)
waitaminute... there's a band?...
LSun
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 18:36:49 (EDT)
did ANYONE tape last nights show? I think it would be a nice gesture if someone could send a copy to Bethy if so.Peace.
bfree
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 22:02:35 (EDT)
hey stretchy..missed ya.working longer hours now....maybe we will have met up tonight.
bfree (thoughts@home.com)
Within Our Sight..., aM - Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 20:48:35 (EDT)
bfree, going tonite, let me know, i'll get some of the tapes together.
Stretchy
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 15:31:05 (EDT)
Dood, they're not tapes of my silly bands. They're my silly tapes of bands i dig. damn.
Stretchy
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 15:30:20 (EDT)
Hmm, where does one get a life nowadays? Wall mart? Is there a deal if i buy in bulk? Buy one life get the second half price? And...Do they come in differant colors???
uj
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 09:44:38 (EDT)
Hey Taper,no prob,thanks.Looking forward to re-experiencing some great jams.I'm sure I can find something you will like.Peace.....and,to the other poster,what,exactly,should one be doing with their life?(I'm NOT being serious here!;))
bfree
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 23:17:49 (EDT)
...hey bfree...i can hook you up...let me just get a little more msituated...i also have a couple of e-mail requests as well...my recording area is not fully set up yet...
TaperJones
amston lake, ct - Friday, June 07, 2002 at 22:16:50 (EDT)
...really...
TaperJones
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 22:14:41 (EDT)
You people should get a life, there's more to life than tapes of your silly bands.
Kip Keeno
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 15:25:35 (EDT)
Congrats on the new home.Keep it real.Later.
bfree
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 10:54:47 (EDT)
hmmmm,let's see...looking to trade for 5-3-02,10-5-01,and 12-31-01.Who wants to do a trade?
Bfree
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 10:06:36 (EDT)
mannnnnnnnnnn...TAPERCENTRAL closes to move the "vault" to its new home...and you guys are talking about...well...look and see what you posted...you fools...doesn't look like Taping or Tape trading to me...
TaperJones
amston lake, ct - Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 23:06:47 (EDT)
I would like to trade for some live creek shows. I have many shows on tape, but none on disc. I have many other artists to trade. Let me know and thanks. Joe (jpryan@uiuc.edu)
Joe Ryan (jpryan@uiuc.edu)
champaign, il - Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 11:16:11 (EDT)
I'm hearing a buzz,check yer cables.
anal archivist
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 20:00:58 (EDT)
point a spot shoe
sk
- Friday, May 31, 2002 at 16:54:17 (EDT)
sk, touch me.
shoe
- Friday, May 31, 2002 at 02:32:54 (EDT)
That is, if he could actualy lift his leg up that high
sk's no kicker, just a belly itcher!
- Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 19:57:39 (EDT)
He said KICK, not lick! Christ ole' man, turn that hearing aid up!
~0-0~
- Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 19:56:29 (EDT)
but you already licked mine.. does that include me?
Buzz
- Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 19:04:48 (EDT)
at the next show i will kick all your asses
sk
- Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 14:24:43 (EDT)
I also am very much looking for 10-5-01 and 1-25-02 from the Room...new 'haves to trade'...mmw 8-22-98sbd,phil 7-21-01aud,phish 6-30n7-1-00aud,warren WHCN interview from 2-26-02(before webster show),JGB 2-21-76sbd (late show),rowan rice n shatz 4-30-00aud(Merlfest)(nueman140s)...mystery feet 5-10-02,jeff pevar w scott murawski 4-13-02sbd...i really would like to get the below dates....
bfree
i'm free,but , Im - Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 10:13:13 (EDT)
looking to trade for 5-3-02 at Lupos...
bfree (midnight_monkey2@yahoo.com)
- Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 09:52:49 (EDT)
...Hey UJ...looks like this weekend I'll be renting the pole digger...gotta get my mailbox put in....yessssssssssssss...and then I figure we'll do the fence...
TaperJones
off in the woods, - Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 22:50:12 (EDT)
Hey Cheeto, keyboard crapped out. Had to get another. Anyways...Ya didn't burn my hanging swing project yet, did ya???
uj
- Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 16:37:37 (EDT)
trying to what???
FunkyZen
- Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 10:03:26 (EDT)
hey punkyzen... next time if ya can't handle tapin' an' partakin'... maybe you should do one or the othah... don't think that guy appreciated you tryin' to put out his md... if that's even what you were tryin' to do... be aware of your limits...
LSun
- Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 19:23:09 (EDT)
...hey carl...i cant read the forum on this computer...only the Taper Section...later...let ep know...mannnnnnnnnnnn... i miss those days...
TaperJones
- Monday, May 27, 2002 at 20:18:11 (EDT)
mmmhmm.. its really not that hard to plug your splitters into your home stereo to test them out before every show.
Funkyzen
- Monday, May 27, 2002 at 16:22:35 (EDT)
What's shakin bud?
hahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
- Monday, May 27, 2002 at 16:06:45 (EDT)
....hey uj and tink...st is here and the hotdogs are goin on the grill....yessssssssssssssss...
TaperJones
- Monday, May 27, 2002 at 14:26:24 (EDT)
...i made an interesting discovery in my backyard today...while raking I unburied an "old stone fireplace"...thanks uj, tink, and st for the front yard and those purple flower things...lol...feel free to stop by again monday...I'll just be out for a bit in the morning...
TaperJones

- Monday, May 27, 2002 at 00:27:36 (EDT)
ut oh,that doesn't sound good....
detective dick
- Sunday, May 26, 2002 at 21:06:27 (EDT)
PLEASE check your cables, connectors, and splitters!!!
:
- Sunday, May 26, 2002 at 12:33:37 (EDT)
ALLLLLLL!
!
- Sunday, May 26, 2002 at 11:21:51 (EDT)
ALL
?
- Sunday, May 26, 2002 at 10:59:20 (EDT)
...hey uj...you guys can stop by either today or tomorrow...i'll be here ...unless i run to the store...just wait for me...
TaperJones

- Sunday, May 26, 2002 at 10:57:45 (EDT)
TAPER....CALL US..
uj
- Sunday, May 26, 2002 at 09:18:26 (EDT)
...(ooopppsss)...last 2 shows...hmmmmmmmmmmmm...
TaperJones

- Sunday, May 26, 2002 at 01:20:29 (EDT)
....hey everyone...the house is greattttttttttt...been real busy getting settled...I will need to get copies of the
TaperJones

- Sunday, May 26, 2002 at 01:19:34 (EDT)
http://www.jandr.com/JRProductPage.process?RestartFlow=t&Merchant_Id=1&Product_Code=SON+DTCZE700&source=DealTime.datafeed.SON+DTCZE700.text
is this it?
- Saturday, May 25, 2002 at 08:59:42 (EDT)
does anyone know anything about the SONY DTC-700 DAT MACHINE? i found one for $129.. but i can't find a picture of it anywhere
FunkyZen
- Friday, May 24, 2002 at 09:43:04 (EDT)
I hear ya John, my cable modem should be on my doorstep when I get home today, no more AOHELL for this boy, in a few days I'll be back in the fast lane!
Tans
- Monday, May 20, 2002 at 13:56:32 (EDT)
good deal, Tans. Now maybe I'll get digital i/o going on this computer again and burn some stuff myself...........ugh, not tonight, though! Soon, i hope. I must admit: I'm jonesin'!!
john (jshep@eden.rutgers.edu)
- Sunday, May 19, 2002 at 21:06:56 (EDT)
Burn baby burn
Disco inferno
- Saturday, May 18, 2002 at 15:32:31 (EDT)
...hey stretch...i'm burning 5/4/02 now...
TaperJones
- Saturday, May 18, 2002 at 15:14:05 (EDT)
Me? Forget? Forget what?
uj
- Friday, May 17, 2002 at 19:14:01 (EDT)
...uj...you forgot to e mail me...wasn't sure what was going on...
TaperJones
- Friday, May 17, 2002 at 18:53:39 (EDT)
Cheeeeeto???
?
- Friday, May 17, 2002 at 18:34:36 (EDT)
Hey Jshep, I had the input and the output as the same folder, I made a new one and it seems to be working, now anybody know about transmissions? hahah...peace
Tans
- Friday, May 17, 2002 at 17:59:49 (EDT)
I C U
TaperJones

- Thursday, May 16, 2002 at 13:09:17 (EDT)
..."bring the shows to me"...lol...
*
- Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 20:11:15 (EDT)
1,000 maybe? Hmmmmmm
tape counter
- Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 19:39:48 (EDT)
Come get these shows and tilt the scale!
uj
- Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 19:39:18 (EDT)
....no stretch...i dont tape my mail...but i do have 795 Max Creek shows...
TaperJones
- Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 18:53:03 (EDT)
what, you don't tape the email? i thought you was a true taper ;^P
Stretchy (stephenr@snet.net)
- Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 22:25:46 (EDT)
...hey stretchy...lol...i got to read them...just when i went to respond to them...thats when it crashed...
TaperJones
- Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 21:32:44 (EDT)
Taper, that means you have not been getting the email i've been sending you? i'll send it again...why are you crashing, we should fix that...
Stretchy
- Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 19:51:40 (EDT)
since so many copies of 5/4 came out bad... anyone thinking of doing an SHN tree or something similar? i'll set it up if you want :)
FunkyZen
- Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 09:12:53 (EDT)
if you're using MKW to convert shn/wav theres an option that says to delete the source files after conversion if its on a fixed disc. uncheck that and you should be good to go.
FunkyZen
- Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 09:11:23 (EDT)
Tans: if you are copying .shn from a CD, the problem may be that the read-only flag is set to 'on' for the .shn files on the hard-drive. This also assumes you have a script that attempts to delete the .shn after it is expanded to .wav. Check that read-only flag and let us know how it goes.
john
- Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 07:50:17 (EDT)
howdy all... yeah the aud i made from valchy's mics came out pretty damn good as well... in fact i taped she's here an' hard love from the board an' then switched to the mics... very glad i did too... i've been doin' a lot more aud's these days... mostly because sbd's don't always have the most listenable mixs... a little crowd is bettah than just vocals an' kick...
LSun
- Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 06:58:29 (EDT)
gotta go
bobby just fell down
- Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 01:42:57 (EDT)
...hey carl...good to see we got disc 2 wrapped up...1 more to go...see you wednesday...yesssssssssss...
TaperJones
- Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 00:03:02 (EDT)
...thanks x for fixing the page...i owe ya a silver jack or something...i'll even throw in a burger and fries...Hey dude on the 5/3 and 5/4...i remember...i am not on my computer...and at times ...this one crashes...so i lose mail...but now...you have mail...hey zen...looks like allllllll the boards were trashed that night...my audience came out great...and there were 2 other aud tapers...
TaperJones
- Monday, May 13, 2002 at 23:05:52 (EDT)
I need MORE BRAINS! I simply cannot make up my mind between the Tascam 788 and the Tascam DA-P1. My main interest in live recording, so portability and stability is key. However, I love the added capabilities of the 8-track 788 unit. One of the advantages of the DA-P1 is the built-in Phantom power. However, I keep reading that folks go out and buy a preamp anyway as the built-in isn't so hot. ARGH! Any insights would GREATLY be appreciated! Thanks!
Curly (curly@hotmail.com)
- Monday, May 13, 2002 at 16:52:32 (EDT)
Anybody know why when I try to convert .shn's that are on my hard drive it tells me there's "an error reported by shorten," and "permission denied," but when I convert from the same .shn's on a disc that is in the drive it works fine?
Tans (mtansley@mail.com)
- Monday, May 13, 2002 at 16:16:05 (EDT)
mmm.. maybe they just assumed sk. don't get upset when people talk shit online.. its not healthy :) we're all damn lucky that we even get a sbd patch for a band as good as max creek! Everyone should be grateful
FunkyZen
- Monday, May 13, 2002 at 12:28:03 (EDT)
hey spread the love, that was a gutless attack on me, at least have the decency to write your name on your post, for one thing numbnuts, nobody is patched out of me, we all split the signal, further to that, after the bad new year's incident, the soundguy didn't even want people to tape off the sbd, it was me who was able to talk him back into it, under the premise that i would deal with all the tapers out there, get to the show early and set the tapers up far enough away from the sbd so that you wouldn't bother the soundguy, so maybe after you've been seeing max creek for 28 YEARS you can go to the very top of the taper's food chain,dickhead!
sk
- Monday, May 13, 2002 at 09:47:21 (EDT)
sk gets dibs cause he sells the boots in japan, rakes in a huge wad of dough, and kicks back some to the band...didn't you know? in japan, creek is bigger than cheap trick, even...
Stretchy
- Sunday, May 12, 2002 at 23:27:20 (EDT)
Whenever I ask Sk for a tape I get one, it may not be over night but he gets it to me eventually. So Spread the Love why not go buy a dat deck then start taping the shows that way you can Spread the Love yourself. Or you could ask nicely and be patient.
me
- Sunday, May 12, 2002 at 16:07:22 (EDT)
untrue. sk is very generous with the music that he tapes.
Stretchy
- Saturday, May 11, 2002 at 17:43:34 (EDT)
If taper doesn't get back to you i can give you a copy of 5/3.. my 5/4 came out all wierd
FunkyZen (phunkyzen@prodigy.net)
- Saturday, May 11, 2002 at 13:54:46 (EDT)
TaperJones, I sent you an e-mail requesting a copy of the 5/03/02 and 5/04/02 shows and you never answered, whats up man? i'd really like those shows. they were an out of mind, out of body experience. please e-mail me or post a message on how I could attain those tapes, thanks
Creek Fan named Max (ebbets32@yahoo.com)
- Saturday, May 11, 2002 at 13:14:15 (EDT)
The way the creek taping situation is set up is backwards. Why does everyone come off of this sk character?? he doesn't even spread the music.. why should he get the best copy?
Spread the love
- Saturday, May 11, 2002 at 12:51:29 (EDT)
hey guys,anyone remember me?been detained for the last 3 years. OCB for real.RIP Rudy Ruxspin.miss and love you. will be on the east coast very soon.i love you Simsbury girlys. hi Stephanie.
Ropey (unknown)
pasco, wa - Friday, May 10, 2002 at 13:46:15 (EDT)
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
THE VAULT
- Friday, May 10, 2002 at 11:48:57 (EDT)
tapers suck...
x
- Friday, May 10, 2002 at 10:28:20 (EDT)
Hey sk,no prob,that was a great set.It was nice to snag that since i was working the vibes that year and couldn't give it my best attention.Hearing Madman while standing on a beach,watching the waves and feeling the breeze..,his set was very strong.Did you by chance snag David Grismans set? I was preparing people for the 'storm' that never came...for some reason i thought that that sbd had made the rounds.I recall a post about treeing it,then nothing.I'll have to spin some and hand em out....I really hope that x will consider doing a Scottness set at Camp...Taper,you do cds for BnPs(a show you have on disc)? or just for mastering from Dat? Oh,I just received 1-7-89 Capitol Theater on CD from sbdDat.You get that upgrade yet? ....off to work again.see you sometime this weekend....
Stone Free
- Friday, April 12, 2002 at 11:00:22 (EDT)
perhaps a mic input, a learning/recording tape deck, probably not the best quality...old tho, could not find it at all on the net.
stretch
- Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 21:20:46 (EDT)
...no sk...i'de have to see it...
TaperJones
- Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 19:29:07 (EDT)
ohhh....the Tandberg TCCR 530...I know it all too well, indeed!
sure, sure (whatevah!!)
lol, - Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 18:57:07 (EDT)
TAPERJONES, here at work in our storage area i happened onto a professional tapedeck, a Tandberg TCCR 530. I checked the back of it and it looks like a 5 prong and something else also input, do you know anything about such things?
sk
- Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 16:08:57 (EDT)
hey stonefree, thanks so much for the warren acoustic from gotv 2000, i have a fine aud copy, but the sbd you gave me sounds sweet, and what a great performance, just beautiful, it's fast becoming my favorite cd!!!
sk
- Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 12:05:55 (EDT)
nope, it wasn't me, must be buzzamanchild
sk
- Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 09:07:46 (EDT)
...havent checked that yet...will do...thanks strech...
TaperJones
- Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 22:00:35 (EDT)
...now i know thats not sk...
TaperJones
- Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 21:59:25 (EDT)
does it behave different with 74 min, 80 min cdrs? reading the owner's manual is this expected behavior or does it say so at all?
stretch
- Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 20:48:59 (EDT)
if it's not in your product manual, then email yamaha with the question. http://www.yamaha.com/yec/email.htm
stretch
- Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 20:48:12 (EDT)
shut up taperjones
sk
- Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 20:23:36 (EDT)
,,,,its not a burner in my computer...its a Yamaha CDR-S1000 home unit...I belive its the CD's themselves...
TaperJones
- Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 19:03:49 (EDT)
...tho i got darkstar instead of dark wter...probably misses marked on my end...
TaperJones
- Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 19:01:23 (EDT)
hey sk....its 4/11/87
http://www.tapercities.com/Route66/taperjones/detailed.html#136

TaperJones
- Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 18:59:41 (EDT)
taper, is this a standalone burner? could that be a feature and not a bug? or are you as SF sez going real-time to a pcburner via a soundcard? if so i can't imagine how it would handle a mid-stream interrupt (hence the eject). does it finalize the CD (make it ok to play it), or just spit it out?
stretch
- Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 18:52:18 (EDT)
(bfree)...the comment was for Taper,who is having problems with the burner tray opening while switching DAT tape (that he is sending up through his soundcard to burn on-the-fly.) I needed a new face,and I've been listening to alot of Hendrix these days.well,I'm off to work.I'm looking for a ride to Liquid next week.gimme an e if you have space etc.Thanks.
Stone Free (midnightmonkey@snet.net)
- Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 11:02:28 (EDT)
I do know with MD that in playback you can insert,even move track marks to fit the song or blank space left in the program.DAT should be the same.It just takes an additional 10 minutes of time per disc deciding where to put the track marks.But that's kinda fun,having the power to decide where one song ends,and another starts.
Stone Free
- Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 10:58:18 (EDT)
stone free, who are you? are you s of s & a? you can indeed track on a DAT and when you put it to disk it will track as such, not sure if that answers your question though?
sk
- Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 10:57:56 (EDT)
This is definitely a naive comment,but can you put track marks on the DAT tape prior to uploading it? Then you could upload them as separate tracks instead of 'disc image',thereby enabling you to continue uploading tracks from the second DAT,and program the digital image afterward to fit the timeline of the cds and the show.I do that to put filler on cds.
Stone Free
- Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 10:54:11 (EDT)
sk,I remember you loaning that show to me,which was very kind of you.It was 4-11-87,and the disc has only 4 track marks.Nice second set.It was marked as 16th anniversary.Thanks again.
Stone Free
- Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 10:47:15 (EDT)
mr. jones, first name, taper, the dr. juice show the other night came out very well thank you, also gave a listen to the aud copy i ran for zodiac mambo at arch st. tavern and that came out great as well
sk
- Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 09:29:38 (EDT)
A LITTLE HELP PLEASE: someone made me a creek cd and i lost the label as to what date it's from, i think they mentioned something about a 17th anniv. in the show, but can someone help with the actual date, the setlist on the cd was: midnight hour......happy anniversay to you, ready to burn, willin (with pat nigro), loose lucy, dark water, same things.....not fade away.....katie mae......trippin
sk
- Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 09:28:22 (EDT)
...i was pausing the burner to put the 2nd DAT in....the show was 2hr52min not including the 17min encores...i didnt want to take the chance the encores would cut...which they would of...
TaperJones
- Tuesday, April 09, 2002 at 22:59:48 (EDT)
what are you pausing the burner for? filler?...are you using a PC? hitting pause may make the burner think you are ready to burn another disc...does it say 'insert a blank disc' after the tray opens?
Stone Free
- Tuesday, April 09, 2002 at 20:03:55 (EDT)
that's it exactly, taper nearly shot himself (and all tapers) in the foot with his new years taping faux pas, in this picture he is admitting that i am the taper king, i can do anything!!!
sk
- Tuesday, April 09, 2002 at 13:22:39 (EDT)
it looks to me like TJ is trying to shoot himself in the head with his fingers :op
*
- Tuesday, April 09, 2002 at 13:21:24 (EDT)
...was that picture taken when I was drinking...
TaperJones
- Monday, April 08, 2002 at 20:40:09 (EDT)
..hey smiles...i think its a matter of sending it in...I only seem to have a problem when I have to "pause" the burner...at that point the CD ejects...
TaperJones
- Monday, April 08, 2002 at 20:39:30 (EDT)
that's okay, i'm left-handed
sk
- Monday, April 08, 2002 at 16:35:13 (EDT)
Taperjones, I think you better think about it before shaking THAT hand again
BUZZ
- Monday, April 08, 2002 at 14:38:01 (EDT)
nice picture, i look handsome, nice seeing taperjones giving up, he knows i'm the man, he knows!
sk
- Monday, April 08, 2002 at 10:42:04 (EDT)
Taper call stretchy steve he'll walk ya thru your burner troubles
smiles
- Monday, April 08, 2002 at 10:07:01 (EDT)

Carl
- Monday, April 08, 2002 at 00:33:23 (EDT)
...hey strech....once again i seem to be having trounle with the burner...i will keep you posted...
TaperJones
- Sunday, April 07, 2002 at 21:21:09 (EDT)
....gave lupo's a listen...came out great...I did a straight audience...hey sk...how'd the juice show come out..
TaperJones
- Sunday, April 07, 2002 at 21:20:14 (EDT)
oh oh oh say it isn't so yes yes yes glen i want them all
helen ready
- Saturday, April 06, 2002 at 16:02:48 (EST)
Taper, please email me...thanks,steve...
stretch (stephenr@snet.net)
- Saturday, April 06, 2002 at 12:26:32 (EST)
I'm on the comeback trail. Does anyone want any tapes of my great performances from the early 70's?
Glenn Campbell
- Friday, April 05, 2002 at 12:33:50 (EST)
...and now...the statue of liberty...
TaperJones
- Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 23:15:52 (EST)
Always was.
ep
- Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 22:51:23 (EST)
...hey costa...just finishing "gimme shelter"...lots of time left on this disc...hmmmm...
TaperJones
- Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 21:27:37 (EST)
He's BurnerJones now!!!!!!!!!
john
- Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 20:17:29 (EST)
Taper, you can burn now? do tell!
stretch
- Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 19:57:17 (EST)
ive been into max creek for a while now and would like some of their live shows. does anyone have any recent creek (past 2years) prfalble lupos or the living room RI who would like to trade for some non creek. sci, dnb, keller williams, little feet, bob marley, and other good qual. live shows. any help would be greatly appreciated. peace, kurtM
kurtM (kurtmunko@hotmail.com)
hope, ri - Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 11:17:23 (EST)
How about DAT Lupo's 8/9/96?
John
- Wednesday, April 03, 2002 at 08:26:33 (EST)
Does anyone have Creek 9/9/95 at Pearl Street?
Carl
- Tuesday, April 02, 2002 at 00:57:24 (EST)
...as a matter of fact...they came in today...thanks again kris...I know have...
790 Max Creek shows

TaperJones
- Monday, April 01, 2002 at 18:28:26 (EST)
Taper, did you get those Dats?
kbooth
- Monday, April 01, 2002 at 08:21:44 (EST)
that galactic link was funny.thanks.life is especially good when it's fun.
funseeker
- Friday, March 29, 2002 at 19:14:20 (EST)
Probably a JGB show, huh?
ShowDB
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 23:08:29 (EST)
http://www.kansan.com/print.asp?ID=200203140027
rokk*
trythisagain, - Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 22:28:29 (EST)
watch out tapers, you could be next ...
rokk*
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 22:27:34 (EST)
http://www.galactic-trading.com/indexa.htm
*
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 18:27:56 (EST)
well this is my very first post out here since the redesign, all other posts as me were most likely by buzz, set up like a bowling pin so to speak, buzz's favorite color? yellow of course, yellow as in gutless!!!
sk
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 16:30:21 (EST)
thanks alot sk
BUZZ
- Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 16:12:52 (EST)
...hey shoey...just checked that site out...thanks...
TaperJones
- Tuesday, March 26, 2002 at 22:01:01 (EST)
...hey shoey...sounds like you have already done some experimenting...thanks for alll the imfo...interesting on your findings on having a mono board feed...often wondered about having the mics above each other...
TaperJones
- Tuesday, March 26, 2002 at 21:55:26 (EST)
I think the multi mic mix will bear the sweetest fruit,with a few experiments.Like having stage mics for crowd response.
ideas are good
- Tuesday, March 26, 2002 at 19:40:02 (EST)
Food (or I should I say feast? :) for thought: http://www.josephson.com/micfaq
Shoey
- Tuesday, March 26, 2002 at 16:50:00 (EST)
When using wider spaced techniques (AB, ORTF) phasing is what gives us the stereo image; the time delay between when the source hits one mic or the other. XY uses the difference of sound intensity in the stereo field becuase there is virtually no space between the mics and thus no time difference. Maybe sometime in the near future we can all try different setups at the same show and compare our results... Maybe even a post production matrix using sbd and more than one mic mix -????
Shoey
- Tuesday, March 26, 2002 at 16:49:34 (EST)
Speaking of phasing.... One thing to keep in mind is the positioning of the mics. (I think this is an even more important issue when the mics are closer to a source). There are many ways to position mics; depending on the room, position of mics to source, distance to source, and matrix concerns. Wider stereo imaging can be produced using omnis and an AB setup (around 50cm apart)- more natural imaging using cardiods and an ORTF setup (110° and 17cm apart)- or what I've found to work best for matrixing with a mono sbd feed, using an XY setup (90° and 0cm apart- ideally one of the caps directly above the other). continued in next msg...
Shoey
- Tuesday, March 26, 2002 at 16:40:27 (EST)
thank god buzz has not found out about this page being back again, lets not tell him
sk
- Tuesday, March 26, 2002 at 16:11:07 (EST)
Taper, it didn't sound from your posts that phase delay was an issue. just wanted to mention post-prod mixing if it ever does get bad. Obviously, it is going to be more to worry about the further those mics are from the stacks....

hey, that direct connect thing loks pretty cool, Shoey!
john
- Tuesday, March 26, 2002 at 07:54:52 (EST)


sk- I still haven't figured out what happened at hoops with those cables... doesn't make much sense to me, but I'll keep digging... Thanks for the help, I'll post here if I find out anything.
Shoey
- Monday, March 25, 2002 at 23:43:02 (EST)
788 Max Creek shows
TaperJones
- Monday, March 25, 2002 at 20:26:26 (EST)
...thanks js...there wasnt any trouble at allll with the phase delay arch was referring tooo...just that at Hoops, I should of set the mics closer to the stage due to the fact that when the P.A (volume) went down, you could here more chatter...Hoops and Hoops also has an insulated tile ceiling which takes up alot of sound in that room...didnt have that problem at the snow barn or the living room...they came out greatttt...
TaperJones
- Monday, March 25, 2002 at 20:24:09 (EST)
...X...I cant say thank you enough for putting the Tapers Forum back up...thank you...thank you...thank you...
TaperJones
- Monday, March 25, 2002 at 18:51:38 (EST)
because of my god like character i feel that i can unplug anyone and jump right ahead of them in the patch chain. screw everyone else.. let them get a worse signal because i want the best!
sk
- Monday, March 25, 2002 at 08:54:57 (EST)
TJ: If that phase delay mm was speaking about becomes bothersome, many have had great success with mixing after-the-fact. You'd just need to have at least one deck rolling with a straight aud feed; the plain sbd should be easy enough to get.....My new setup isn't ready to do it yet, but it should be soon. Valchy: I'm getting a package together for you that I'll send near the end of the week..... Have a great week everyone!
John (jshep@eden.rutgers.edu)
Somerset, NJ - Monday, March 25, 2002 at 07:56:55 (EST)
Hellllooo Tapers!!!
Skeets (Skeets37@aol.com)
- Monday, March 25, 2002 at 06:50:48 (EST)
cool, thanks X! looks like i stumbled in at the right time(literally!) anyway, taperJ, both nites came out great! so now you and sk can have it out on this "side" again...
bri
- Monday, March 25, 2002 at 01:33:59 (EST)
test
x
- Monday, March 25, 2002 at 00:01:34 (EST)
Hi, I'm in need of a copy of MCMXC on cd. I can't find one anywhere. Would someone burn me a copy if I supply some cdr's? If can do, please email me at lschleier@hotmail.com, my name's Lou...
Lou (lschleier@hotmail.com)
Wilmington, MA - Thursday, March 21, 2002 at 00:56:22 (EST)
Hi, I'm in need of a copy of MCMXC on cd. I can't find one anywhere. Would someone burn me a copy if I supply some cdr's? If can do, please email me at lschleier@hotmail.com, my name's Lou...
Lou (lschleier@hotmail.com)
Wilmington, MA - Thursday, March 21, 2002 at 00:56:06 (EST)
Which isn't to say that the MX602A ins't a great deal for the price :-)
Shoey
- Wednesday, March 20, 2002 at 22:30:47 (EST)
Right on, TJ, glad to hear ya got the matrix woikin'! As a side note, one might consider buying a used Mackie 1202 versus that Behringer... FWIW, I know quite a few folks who've had problems with their Behringer mixers... noisy pots, malfunctioning subs & excessive crosstalk, whole channel strips bunking out... but those Mackies are built like friggin' tanks and many claim the mic preamps are quite superior.
Shoey
- Wednesday, March 20, 2002 at 22:28:26 (EST)
...here it is kris...
http://www.behringer.com/02_products/prodindex.cfm?id=MX602A&lang=eng

TaperJones
- Wednesday, March 20, 2002 at 21:47:43 (EST)
...alllllll right...zip it on allll this senseless chat...hey kris, Behringer makes a small 8 channel mixer...not expensive either...
TaperJones
- Wednesday, March 20, 2002 at 21:40:36 (EST)
well it you weren't such an a$$hole at the allman's that night
sk
- Wednesday, March 20, 2002 at 20:05:41 (EST)
or, it might be me from work
hat trick
- Wednesday, March 20, 2002 at 16:34:36 (EST)
it might be someone useing buzzs computer when he is not home sk, he told me what you have been saying about me
hat trick
- Wednesday, March 20, 2002 at 16:33:27 (EST)
BUZZ is *always* up to something!
JahWood
- Wednesday, March 20, 2002 at 16:18:08 (EST)
You think so ?
BUZZ
- Wednesday, March 20, 2002 at 14:41:07 (EST)
buzz is at it again, those last 2 posts were not made by me
sk
- Wednesday, March 20, 2002 at 11:40:09 (EST)
Then, and only then, can i legaly say "get those tapes out of your ass!".
LT. Perdy
- Wednesday, March 20, 2002 at 11:22:46 (EST)
when oh when are they going to make tape decks in the shape of bull genitalia ?
sk
- Wednesday, March 20, 2002 at 10:13:38 (EST)
hey Ray... you've got mail... sunshine and smiles,
stiney
- Wednesday, March 20, 2002 at 09:30:19 (EST)
Max Creek Set List Page
Carl
- Wednesday, March 20, 2002 at 00:50:05 (EST)
Were can I find Max Creek setlists?Also want to TRADE!Have; 5-1-99/1-17-98/5-9-98/10-11-00 cd or dat.Please help me in florida!!B&P??? Ray deadicated@comcast.net
Ray De Costa (deadicated@comcast.net)
Port Charlotte, FL - Tuesday, March 19, 2002 at 23:40:07 (EST)
Taper email what is exactly needed to do a matrix mix. Do you need a special kind of mixer, etc
kbooth
- Tuesday, March 19, 2002 at 22:04:09 (EST)
if a ram is a ram... and an ass is an ass... why is a ram in the ass a goose???
sk
- Tuesday, March 19, 2002 at 19:28:46 (EST)
...thanks again kris...the 12/31/01 is a MATRIX mix...the only level problem is when someone (lol) was showing someone if they wanted to hear it thru headphones to turn this knob up...unfortunetly the knob controled the patch out of the matrix ...not the headphones...oh well...
TaperJones
- Tuesday, March 19, 2002 at 18:49:44 (EST)
snicker... chuckle...
LSun
- Tuesday, March 19, 2002 at 18:44:42 (EST)
Taper, I got the DAT's today. Will start cloning tonight, by the way, is that New Years off of mics or the SBD, I heard they had some level problems off the board at that show.
kbooth
- Tuesday, March 19, 2002 at 17:31:17 (EST)
all of a sudden pickle is like paulie in goodfellas? you can't actually talk to him directly anymore, you need to go thru an intermiediery these days? i'll see if i can set up a meeting with him for you shake, but it's gonna cost you, i want my 15% tribute, just like paulie would insist. yeah, i made a big mistake naming you my heir apparent so quickly, but you came on like a dream, peaches and cream, dat like strawberry wine, ha ha, but i digress, you lad were a mere flash in the pan, you had a meteoric rise thru the ranks without paying your dues and you couldn't handle it, for godsakes, you let a skirt get in the way of your taping, the real & true heir apparent id fryinbri, when you're ready to comeback i suggest cutting your teeth on lesser bands such as slipknot and jiggle, then perhaps you'll be ready once again to take your place up in the big leagues
sk
- Tuesday, March 19, 2002 at 15:50:31 (EST)
sk could you let pickle know that i want to set up a time to head down to CT so i can drop the deck off to him? i havent seen him post in forever... i figured you would at least talk to him before me... you assistance is appreciated... and although im sure you have knighted someone else "heir apparent" i would like to say that i do intend to get back behind the soundboard in the not too distant future, but not until the walls are done caving in so to speak.... thanks sk...
shake
- Tuesday, March 19, 2002 at 14:05:28 (EST)
that buzz is a piece of work let me tell ya, he posts something mean & rotten to taperjones, then follows it up with a post claiming "I" did it, and of course has to slip in a word he learned today on his word a day calendar. the man is evil!
sk
- Tuesday, March 19, 2002 at 09:21:55 (EST)
Hello freaks! Can somebody E Mail me if they know something about this Friday night and if there's any good shows around on Friday. Thanks.
Al and Merry (arglebargle420@hotmail.com)
- Monday, March 18, 2002 at 23:11:52 (EST)
Max Creek 7-12-97 shn file is up for share at furthernet.com
zippy the pin head
- Monday, March 18, 2002 at 21:42:41 (EST)
786 Max Creek shows
TaperJones
- Monday, March 18, 2002 at 20:02:08 (EST)
...thanks carl...
TaperJones
- Monday, March 18, 2002 at 20:01:23 (EST)
hey buzz, i get those cd envlopes at BJ's, real cheap, like 100 for $5
rokk*
- Monday, March 18, 2002 at 18:34:20 (EST)
Buzz, I think they sell those at K-Mart, something like 2 or 3 bucks for fifty of 'em, amazon.com has them too...peaced
Tans (mtansley@mail.com)
- Monday, March 18, 2002 at 18:15:22 (EST)
...ya buzz...thats not my post..some people just dont know when to quit...
TaperJones
- Monday, March 18, 2002 at 18:01:52 (EST)
Taperjones, looks like megalocephaly-boy is posting as you again.
BUZZ
- Monday, March 18, 2002 at 17:41:19 (EST)
SHUT UP BUZZ
TaperJones
- Monday, March 18, 2002 at 16:48:47 (EST)
Is 265 shn disks alot? And does anyone know where I can find those nice little paper single CD envelopes with the window in them, localy ?
BUZZ
- Monday, March 18, 2002 at 15:51:32 (EST)
anyone have any copies of the papal tour from '88, specifically any of the europe shows?
sk
- Monday, March 18, 2002 at 14:06:10 (EST)
I've no memory of walking the edge with SK. I believe Ted was a big audio VHS guy Creekwise. Has anyone been in touch with June? Please let TJ, Carl or I know. Thanks,,,get wild,,,
ep
- Monday, March 18, 2002 at 01:56:10 (EST)
..as in sp/slp/ep....:)
bfree
- Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 21:03:21 (EST)
sk,did you experiment with ep?...is this what spacey meant by having it on video??
bfree
- Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 21:02:17 (EST)
and my experiment using the hi-fi vcr to record was succesful as well, i listened to it today and found no discernable difference b/t that and my dat tape, it was, if you will......the $80 experiment, thank you, good night, and stay in touch
sk
- Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 20:55:41 (EST)
...hey kris...a MATRIX mix is when you take a patch from the soundboard and use mics and mix them thru a mixer...
TaperJones
- Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 19:28:09 (EST)
Hey Taper, what exactly is a Matrix recording, hear that term thrown around a lot, what does it involve?
kbooth
- Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 19:17:14 (EST)
...I gave last nights show a listen and the "MATRIX" mix was a sucess...Best sounding show I ever heard from the Living Room, considering our shows come out great there anyways, this show came out even better...Sorry to those who had to unplug from my mix due to someone who had a bad cord or splitters...
Hey Liquid Blue...miss ya toooo..;)

TaperJones
3/16/02 Living Room;Providence, RI - Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 12:20:15 (EST)
Hi Taper.......I miss you.
Liquidblue
- Sunday, March 17, 2002 at 11:05:44 (EST)
yeah man, definitely... i've already got kimock on cd.. my buddy who has trucks was on ratdog tour for a couple of weeks but he just got back so i'll get a copy of that in a day or two :)
funkyzen
- Saturday, March 16, 2002 at 18:08:24 (EST)
hey pzen...you still interested in that kimock/trucks trade?
scotty (Scamc@aol.com)
- Saturday, March 16, 2002 at 18:04:09 (EST)
Hey Folks, I'm trying to get a message to a Bill Watkins who sent me a bunch of blank cdr's and a few with shows already burned to 'em. I'm assuming he was someone who has responded to my offer to do a b + p several weeks ago in this here forum. Only problem is I just moved into a new home and have been offline for a couple weeks, so I may not have received his email. Therefore I do not know which shows he wants. Anyway my hope is that he may see this post and get back to me at my new email address. If omeone knows him maybe they could pass on the message? Thanks
Kenny (links270@attbi.com)
East Hartford, Ct - Saturday, March 16, 2002 at 16:40:35 (EST)
...I just looked and I only have 8/14/86 Agora Ballroom:Hartford,CT...and...8/31/86 Kings Grant Inn;Gilford,NH.
TaperJones
- Saturday, March 16, 2002 at 15:49:53 (EST)
Looking for my first Creek show: JONATHAN SWIFT'S Cambridge, Massachusetts Friday, August 22, 1986 Have lots to trade.
David (david@primrosepath.com)
Medford, MA - Saturday, March 16, 2002 at 02:16:45 (EST)
no scotty keep em
dogpatch
- Friday, March 15, 2002 at 22:06:50 (EST)
maybe shake should bring his deck?!... what's that kid smokin' now?... it's been in my house for weeks now... don't worry i'll bring it saturday.....
LSun
- Friday, March 15, 2002 at 18:29:02 (EST)
Hairy !
Eric
- Friday, March 15, 2002 at 18:11:09 (EST)
Thank you helpful Harry for fillin in the blanks on 11/10/01 !!!!
Eric
Roch, - Friday, March 15, 2002 at 18:10:07 (EST)
shake, i saw pickle last night and i think he wants the deck, might as well bring it, it weighs what, a whole 8 ounces?
sk
- Friday, March 15, 2002 at 16:20:05 (EST)
pickle are you out there?? i would call you myself but your phone # is stored in my cell fone which has been MIA for months... do you want the deck? should i bring it to the LR?? please call....
shake (508@753.7435)
- Friday, March 15, 2002 at 13:11:21 (EST)
I don't have 11/9... got mine from Mikey Marino... thanks again mike!
hh
- Friday, March 15, 2002 at 11:39:04 (EST)
yeah dp...i got em...thanks.sorry i didn't tell ya, been working 50-60 hr weeks and been in a daze... do you need em sent back? lemme know...peace
scotty
- Thursday, March 14, 2002 at 23:53:34 (EST)
scotty>did you ever get the cds?
dogpatch
- Thursday, March 14, 2002 at 19:56:32 (EST)
Thanks for that setlist Hairy!!! Now can ya get the one for 11/9 also??? Me and Scotty would be thankin' ya ;-) rokk on
rokk*
www.rokkstar.is.dreaming.org, - Thursday, March 14, 2002 at 18:40:21 (EST)
hey helpful hairy is that 11/10 or 11/9? my el show with scott m. is labled as 11/9..
scotty
- Thursday, March 14, 2002 at 16:38:55 (EST)
Pickle - i talked to stretch last night on the fone and he mentioned your post about the M1.... if u want it is all yours.... i can prolly even sell it to you for less than previously mentioned, but that just cuz its you, and youve been there in a big way for me before... call me at home as soon as you can so that we can set something up... i was actually about to post it on ebay w/ a 24hr action, but id MUCH rather you get it and see it stay in the family.... digits below...
shake (508@753.7435)
- Thursday, March 14, 2002 at 11:48:35 (EST)
I have 5-1-99 Creek 28th Anniversary on my drive.Anyone going to the Room that does NOT have it? Will spin to deliver....Also Warren Haynes solo acoustic from gotv 2000,dsbd.Peace.
bfree (midnightmonkey@snet.net)
- Thursday, March 14, 2002 at 10:17:41 (EST)
someone asked about the El Buho setlist from 11/10/01: The CD1: 1.Phoenicians (1) 2. Floating In The Ort Cloud 3. Leviathan (2) 4. Footprints > D > Footprints > D > Footprints > D > Footprints (3) 5. The Wham Bam Boodle (4) 6. Oh My Little White Dove CD2 1. Monica > Jam > Monica 2. Escape From Salt Lake > D > Bass > The Wild Blue Yonder 3. Spankin The Monkey > D & Bass > Spankin The Monkey 4. Fertile Crescent 5. Partido Alto > Jam > Partido Alto (5)
helpful hairy
- Thursday, March 14, 2002 at 09:58:48 (EST)
greeting's fellow bootlegers, i have a 3pc. band in the area of the 2002 camp creek. I.L.C.C. we would like to perform at this years show. making that contact has proven to be a bit dificult. if anybody can hook me up with the contact info. e-mail me at jcanfiel@nycap.rr.com you can also contact us through our shitty little website. http://home.nycap.rr.com/theheattreaters/ thanks jamie
The Heat Treater's (jcanfiel@nycap.rr.com)
bluesville, n.y. - Thursday, March 14, 2002 at 08:18:55 (EST)
...well I finaly got my "links" on my tape List up and running..tho they are only updated to camp 2001..
www.max.creek.com/taperjones.html

TaperJones
- Wednesday, March 13, 2002 at 21:30:47 (EST)
hurray,I'm shn ready!!:)))
bfree
- Wednesday, March 13, 2002 at 10:20:51 (EST)
Wow, acutally found a store in California that has brand new Sony SBM-1's in stock, never thought I would be able to find a brand new one....now my taping equipment is complete.
kbooth
- Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 22:29:14 (EST)
Shake, PLEASE!!!! get in touch with me before you get rid of the M1......maybe be time to have my own portable dect again...Email me your digits and I will get in touch.
Pickle (picklefreek@yahoo.com)
- Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 21:29:34 (EST)
Shake, PLEASE!!!! get in touch with me before you get rid of the M1......maybe be time to have my own portable dect again...Email me your digits and I will get in touch.
Pickle (picklefreek@yahoo.com)
- Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 21:29:27 (EST)
tans, i think jah has the shns, i've got the cd but i'd have to extract it for you... ((((shake))))
stretch
- Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 21:20:34 (EST)
Hey JShep, you didn't happen to get the Old&In the Way reunion did you? One of my buddies' father has been bugging me about finding it for him... db.etree.org/tans if you happen to have it and want to trade and if anybody else is down for any trades too...peace
Tans (mtansley@mail.com)
- Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 20:10:14 (EST)
The M1 goes for around $700 new
kboothq
- Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 17:28:46 (EST)
(((shake)))
me
- Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 11:58:07 (EST)
Isn't that a steep price for a used deck? i think they're only $600 new
??
- Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 11:14:18 (EST)
well thanks everyone for the love... things are really bad right now... i borrowed my rent $$ from my landlord to get a new car because i was expecting to borrow about $1000 from my sister (i work 35 miles away... gotta have a car) .... she is doing a study for the nat'l parks service and was supposed to get a huge check from the the US treasury TWO WEEKS AGO... well the check still hasnt come and my landlord cant pay the damn mortgage without our rent.... he has been unemployed for months :( ... so that MD deck is still for sale.... damn muisic store only offered me $40 for it... and it seems that i MAY still have my PCM-M1 (portable DAT) for sale... but im waiting till the end of the day for the word on that situation... but keep your eyes out for a post... IF it is for sale im asking $500 w/ about 250 hours on the deck... it remains to be seen what the fate of that great little deck is.... love to all,
shake (508@753.7435)
- Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 10:18:23 (EST)
John...thanks for the feedback, so far everyone is saying I will love the mics, just need an A/D converter now, trying to find the good old sony SBM-1.
kbooth
- Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 07:28:57 (EST)
kris: I've patched into mbho's several times. Each with fantastic results. Most notably at Grey Fox last summer. Point being, you are likely to be extremely satisfied with your purchase.

Valchy, my PC did indeed completely die, but i just got it all setup again with linux. Drop me a line with your address and cassettes & discs will be on their way to you.

love to everyone: John
john (jshep@eden.rutgers.edu)
- Monday, March 11, 2002 at 23:14:38 (EST)


hey shake...sorry about your situation. this too shall pass. love surrounds you.
moebee
- Monday, March 11, 2002 at 19:12:51 (EST)
shake, here's a couple bucks.....$$......it's all my unemployed a** can spend. I'd suggest selling your body before selling your equipment. I'm sure many would agree. I don't know that sk would though, with that golfer's physique.
Valchy
- Monday, March 11, 2002 at 18:53:13 (EST)
shake, long time no hear...sorry about your $$$ issues...who knows i may join you...drop us a line when you can or call 860-346-7696...hugs to you and courtney :))
stretch aka gdtrfb (stephenr@snet.net)
- Monday, March 11, 2002 at 18:13:19 (EST)
thats 508.753.7435... NOT 745... sorry
shake
- Monday, March 11, 2002 at 18:04:41 (EST)
hey now! i know i havent posted in a long long time and it pains me to post for the sole purpose of gain, however, life has come to a head for the shakester.... my car more or less blew up and now im completely broke and driving a car that i bought on a promise... so the long and the short of it is that i have already sold my M1 to bob, but still have a very nice peice of equipment for sale.... my sony mds-je630 is officially on the market at a price of $175/bo... its the top of the line 2001 model home MD deck... has optical ins/outs... pitch control... keyboard input for disk & track labeling and all the pretty non-essential xtras... blah blah blah... and a remote the size of a helicopter landing pad.... call or post if u are interested... im am sorry that my reyurn to the "internet" must be on these terms, however, i have no choice and the damn pawn shops arent even clode to fair..... my home phone is listed as my email addie...
shake (508@745.7435)
woostah, - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 18:03:57 (EST)
Taper, you have mail....
kbooth
NY - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 17:32:51 (EST)
Well, after a long discussion with John at Terrapin Tapes and Mark at Sonic sense I decided to purchase some MBHO mics. They say they are relatively new to the marker but a killer mic for the price. I guess they guy that started the company spent 13 years with Schoeps so he must know what he is doing. Got the 603 body with the KA300n cardiod capsule, also picked up some shock pads, mic stand and a Sound Devices MP-2 pre-amp (going to have to save up again for a good A/D converter). Also got some cabling. Wasn't cheap, put me back $2400 along with the $1900+ I just spent on the DA-P1 and eco charge batteries. This hobby is getting out of hand :) Valchy, where in Rochester can I go to get some custom cabling done? Also, once I get this stuff I have to test it out. Doesn't look like Creek will be coming tell Summer, any good acts coming to Rochester soon that allow taping?
kbooth
Rochester, NY - Monday, March 11, 2002 at 17:31:50 (EST)
Mr Booth, Good luck ever finding a set of NAK 700's! When you get your mics and are ready to purchase cables, go to a shop where you can customize your cables to your mic stand. Its well worth it to not have extra cable dangling all over the place. I know of a couple places in Rochester if you drop me a line.
Valchy (Valchy@aol.com)
- Monday, March 11, 2002 at 17:01:09 (EST)
The Attic At Union Street, Newton, MA Newton Center (Centre St. and Beacon St.) Call 617-964-6684 for info and directions also check out the Union St. website: www.unionst.com
LSun
- Monday, March 11, 2002 at 08:45:02 (EST)
...hey kris...check my list out...
www.max.creek.com/taperjones.html

TaperJones
- Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 20:40:14 (EST)
Taper I have 1-11-02 and 1-12-02 on DAT. What DAT's do you have that I can clone?
kbooth
- Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 20:18:55 (EST)
The Attic is in Newton Center near the "T" station. Very small place. The same guy that did the Jiggle/Mark show ( Jack ) is doing sound so there will be a sbd.....taking that Newton exit 17 is the way to go.
Skeets
- Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 19:36:59 (EST)
...hey kris...i need 1/11/02 & 1/12/02...
TaperJones
www.max.creek.com/taperjones.html, - Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 18:40:08 (EST)
...hey kris...i got it on DAT too..just trying to find someone who wants my analog copy...
TaperJones
- Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 18:34:12 (EST)
any chance of there being a sbd there? and how do you get there? i halfway know newton, used to getting off exit 17 of the mass pike where the sheraton is, so directions from there would be appreciated
sk
- Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 17:30:02 (EST)
Taper....I got 11-10-00 on DAT and can now clone, what have you taped recently?
kbooth
Rochester, - Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 17:20:33 (EST)
...hey Lsun...do you have 11/10/00
TaperJones
- Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 17:13:49 (EST)
hey now... well i hope someone brings mics friday... i usually use bruce's when i'm at the attic... an' hey skeets... you ain't the only one w/ the home field advantage...
LSun (thePsychedelic@Cowboy)
- Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 16:40:22 (EST)
...hey kris...just went to that site...those mics keep changing there appearence...(referring to the end where you plug in the mic cable)...mine dont have that extented end...let me know things turn out..
TaperJones
- Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 15:51:57 (EST)
...well 3 hours later and I have shifted the recent trades to the VAULT and its completely in numerical order...hey kris...its a music store in W.H center...there # is 860-523-8425...give them a CC # and they can gettum and ship them to you...
TaperJones
- Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 15:48:05 (EST)
Taper, I did find one place, but I have to call to find out the price (going to do that tomorrow), http://64.213.162.194/lit/m88tg.html, depending on the price I might want to see the conncetion you have, is there a number to call, or is this a personal friend?
kbooth
- Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 13:06:57 (EST)
Hey kris...thats where i started to look...but came up with nothing...Lasalle in W.H usualy has them and can get them for a bit under $300,00 a piece...but they only had one so they found a pair out of chicago...maybe give them a call to see if they have 2 in stock...
TaperJones
- Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 11:31:36 (EST)
Any one know where to score some Beyer M88 mics on line?
kbooth
- Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 11:13:01 (EST)
sk..that show in Newton next friday is my old stomping grouds....you gonna be on my turf!!
Skeets
- Sunday, March 10, 2002 at 10:05:10 (EST)
Thanks for the feedback on the mic's Sk and taper.
kbooth
- Saturday, March 09, 2002 at 23:49:51 (EST)
speaking of which, taper, we going up to the markness show with those mics next friday?
sk
- Saturday, March 09, 2002 at 23:29:38 (EST)
mr booth, what taper said, he asked me about mics before getting his and i suggested either the beyers m 88/s or nak 700's, both older mics, i like some shoeps, but some of them sound processed, i really like the wide range of dynamics the m 88's give you, i have access to them but mostly use the baby beyers, the 201's, which sound pretty good too, the sennheiser 441's are very similar to the beyers m88/s, and if money isn't an object there's always the really expensive neumann's, but for 6 bills, you really can't go wrong with the m88's, spend about $50 or $60 for a good mic stand and get yourself some 10 - 15 foot cables, and get another set of smaller cables, like 3 - 6 feet
sk
- Saturday, March 09, 2002 at 23:28:39 (EST)
...hey kris...i got the Beyer's m88's and they are great...they go for around $300.00 a piece...Lasalle in W.H can get them...via chicago...
TaperJones
- Saturday, March 09, 2002 at 22:02:46 (EST)
Ok, looking to get some good mics for taping. Money isn't a huge issue, but I know nothing about Mics. Heard the Schoeps are the best you can buy, but I see there are many different kinds, what model would be the best for recording shows and what other equipment would I need to hook them up to my Tascam portable dat. Also, are there some other mics out there that are as good as Schoeps but less expensive. Please email me or post back here any advice.
kbooth (kbooth@rochester.rr.com)
Rochester, NY - Saturday, March 09, 2002 at 17:33:28 (EST)
What's up, cheeto?
B bop
- Saturday, March 09, 2002 at 15:12:03 (EST)
hey jones! man, my copy of it is missing a song :( looks like someone's been spreading around the a copy of the show that they recorded off DCN. if i run into the full thing i'll letcha know though!
funkyzen
- Saturday, March 09, 2002 at 11:38:35 (EST)
...hey zen...you still have that 6/30/01 on disk???
TaperJones
- Saturday, March 09, 2002 at 00:12:56 (EST)
...and its 6/25/00...
TaperJones
- Saturday, March 09, 2002 at 00:10:49 (EST)
...wait...I already have that one...
TaperJones
- Saturday, March 09, 2002 at 00:08:47 (EST)
...hey BuZzZzZz...just burn mine and I'll see you soon...
TaperJones
- Friday, March 08, 2002 at 23:53:01 (EST)
I thought some of you might like to know that 06/24/00 Gathering Of The Vibes - Bridgeport, CT Les Claypool's Rat Brigade disk 1 Bob Weir (Ratdog) disk 2,3 is up for D/L at gdlive.com/shn/xtras
BUZZ
- Friday, March 08, 2002 at 22:23:22 (EST)
Dear Valchy: I regret to inform you that JShep is out of commission. His computer, after expiring, is being revived using the Linux operating system. He is currently hunkered down in his New Jersey laboratory, toiling away. Signed, The Evil Prince
taper gremlin
- Friday, March 08, 2002 at 21:51:19 (EST)
jshep, drop me an e-mail, I lost your address.
Valchy (Valchy@aol.com)
Rockchester, - Thursday, March 07, 2002 at 15:34:34 (EST)
hey dogpatch i got those cd's in the mail yesterday, thanks so much!!! i'll send you something soon... hey now tapers!! keep spinning...
stiney
- Thursday, March 07, 2002 at 11:28:36 (EST)
Was lookin for someone who had a copy of hearbeat on their puter soi could download it. Had the cd it was on and it was stolen PLEASE HELP
reagan (moonchyld42@aol.com)
portsmouth, RI - Thursday, March 07, 2002 at 11:13:37 (EST)
ill be there!
pigpen
- Thursday, March 07, 2002 at 09:56:37 (EST)
mark's playing in enfield this friday with pete schieps.. so creek isn't playing anywhere
funkyzen
- Tuesday, March 05, 2002 at 23:58:06 (EST)
i heard that there might be a show this friday.... is this true??? anybody hear this too???
Childmoon (chldmoon@hotmail.com)
sherborn, ma - Tuesday, March 05, 2002 at 22:00:07 (EST)
dirtybiz,you've got mail.
bfree
- Tuesday, March 05, 2002 at 10:41:48 (EST)
Hey folks Im new to this board! I just wanted to see if there were any folks out there willing to do a BnP of the Creek for me! Ive seen them once back in 97 in Syracuse and Loved it.. Rolled and smoked a fatty at the foot of the Guitar players feet that night while he was wailing!!hehehe Pretty cool and great memories!!! Ive got tons to trade too.. dirtybiz on Phishhook... Thanks in advance.... dirtybiz420@yahoo.com Dennis
Dennis (dirtybiz420@yahoo.com)
Atlanta, GA - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 19:12:14 (EST)
Hell yea, just picked up a brand new Tascam DA-P1, 10 hour rechargable battery pack and a midiman 2496 digital sound card for pure digital transfers to my HD. With my D8 I can now officially clone dats. Now its time to save up for a good pair of mics. Just need Creek to come to town to test out my new gear. Man is this hobby getting expensive.
kbooth (kbooth@rochester.rr.com)
Rochester, NY - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 15:28:03 (EST)
Can someone help me get started in trading.. I am willing to do B&P Trading... Please Help Thanks
Joe Parknavy (keynote91@attbi.com)
White Oak, PA - Monday, March 04, 2002 at 10:44:10 (EST)
Hey there taper,tomorrow is "RATDOG" if you want to come your welcome.Tuesday night is lookin like jam night.
GUY
VERNON, CT - Sunday, March 03, 2002 at 20:40:39 (EST)
...I applied for that american tech job but they said I was over qualified...
TaperJones
- Sunday, March 03, 2002 at 19:08:47 (EST)
it was 100 degrees in the paradise, yet taperjones had the perfect set-up, right under an air conditioning exhaust, for godsakes, i needed my sweatshirt there, yet 5 feet away it was hot, taper is nobody's fool, glad to hear it came out well
sk
- Sunday, March 03, 2002 at 18:27:14 (EST)
...just gave last nights show a listen...it came out GREATTT...the m88's worked out real well in the spot I was in...while I was taping I thought the tape would be lacking bass being up so high, tho the mics seemed to capture every frequency...
TaperJones
- Sunday, March 03, 2002 at 17:27:25 (EST)
well taper, since you bought the mics you might as well use them, you've had several opportunities where they woulda worked well but you didn't bother, to wit, lupo's & poil street
sk
- Friday, March 01, 2002 at 12:36:57 (EST)
hahahaha I was just gonna post that link
day late dollah short
- Friday, March 01, 2002 at 12:11:01 (EST)
http://www.american-digital.com/prodsite/dreamjob.asp
have fun, good luck
- Friday, March 01, 2002 at 11:00:34 (EST)
...my mic stand consists of a "boom"...I'm thinking of bringing it saturday...
TaperJones
- Thursday, February 28, 2002 at 21:47:30 (EST)
same as it ever was birdman, same as it ever was
sk
- Thursday, February 28, 2002 at 20:03:28 (EST)
my view of the paradise is that it isn't a good venue for mic taping.. you can either be on the floor and deal with lots of drunks and crowd noise.. or go upstairs, but you'll be really close to the celing unless you have a mic stand thats kinda like a boom stand that can go straight out..
funkyzen
- Thursday, February 28, 2002 at 18:14:09 (EST)
I love knob jobs
head case
- Thursday, February 28, 2002 at 17:24:37 (EST)
does anybody know if the all new & improved paradise is any better than the old for microphone recording or is it the same layout w/ anew face lift? any info is appreciated
birdman (tnjfortier5@aol.com)
yarmouthport, ma - Thursday, February 28, 2002 at 17:23:07 (EST)
hi tapers!! hey Kirk... did you get your tapes yet? please let me know, i sent them out last week sometime... sunshine and smiles,
stiney (fire_faerey@yahoo.com)
- Thursday, February 28, 2002 at 10:24:28 (EST)
Who turns who down?
ep
- Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 22:16:10 (EST)
I love knobs.
TaperJones
- Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 20:53:52 (EST)
I'll tell ya something. You tapers spread the music. Mike from SD!! Thanks to you guys the real stuff is out and about. Where would we be without this funky groove. Never succomb to the bottomless bull the media will feed ya. Keep smiling,,,,,,,
ep
- Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 20:50:22 (EST)
another sound program you might wanna check out for that is DART ... you can de-hiss sound files, take out pops, etc.. download the shareware version then do a search for dart pro cracks and you should be able to find a crack for it.
funkyzen
- Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 15:46:27 (EST)
the only thing i can think of to do about pops with sound forge is to zoom in to where the pop is to a 1:1 ratio and then either lower the volume alot or just highlight the thousands of a second that was the pop and delete it.
funkyzen
- Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 15:45:08 (EST)
Since all the talk on the forum about taping and such, I just want to thank again everyone who has helped me with tapes, since I live so far from creek!! You guys keep the music going!!! THANKS!!!
k u b i a k (kubiak1@lycos.com)
Dgo, CO - Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 13:33:48 (EST)
I knew a vampire named buffy
Prince Vlod
- Wednesday, February 27, 2002 at 11:27:12 (EST)
i knew a hamster named tuffy
another hamster
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 15:36:20 (EST)
hey yall...i posted this already...i got hooked up with soundforge xp4.5...i wanna use it to clean up shows with those tracks boundry pops...any advice or tips on what, how, and the most efficient way to do it?? any help would be great...peace...
scotty (Scamc@aol.com)
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 15:36:13 (EST)
I'M BACK!!!!
TUFFY TUFALOWSKI
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 12:17:26 (EST)
whoops.
stretch
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 12:06:25 (EST)
11.23.84 Bismark, Early Show, i've got that, tracked and fixed already. unless it's the late show, don't bother...
stretch
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 12:05:02 (EST)
pigpen, I'd be happy to help. Email me, amigo! BTW, great to see you Saturday night...
JahWood (jwood_jw@yahoo.com)
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 09:52:02 (EST)
ok in an unrelated post.. i got some untracked zappa strait from dat.. 10/26/73, 12/23/84, 2/27/79... i dont know if i will have the time to track and release these before i head out west.. i want to make sure that something gets done with them, i will do what i can before the creek show on the 16th at the living room, and ill be leaving the day after... is there anyone out there who would be interested in helping me get these to the masses?
pigpen (pigpen@ilovecrayons.com)
- Tuesday, February 26, 2002 at 09:18:44 (EST)
Has anyone seen my friend sk?
Ben Dover
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 19:57:48 (EST)
hmmm, does that "pore" look like an oversized leather cheerio?
nurse helga
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 19:50:05 (EST)
Actually it isn't all that big. I've been rubbing lotion on it everyday the last 3 weeks and it's gotten much smaller. I love the legendary sk, I really do.
BUZZ
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 18:37:48 (EST)
I have this one over sized skin pore on my back big enough to shove hamburgers into.
sk
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 18:14:43 (EST)
Well he's the king of something anyway...
blotto
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 16:43:33 (EST)
Gee, you think somebody wants TaperJones to jam?
JahWood
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 16:29:06 (EST)
HEY THERE TAPER JONES,DONT SIT AROUND AND JONES LETS JAM!!!
YESSSSS
VERNON, CT - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 15:36:57 (EST)
TAPERJONES,Dont sit around and jones,COME JAM!!!
YESSSSS
VERNON, ct - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 15:35:22 (EST)
TAPERJONES,Dont sit around and jones,COME JAM!!!
YES
VERNON, ct - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 15:34:30 (EST)
TAPERJONES,Dont sit around and jones,COME JAM!!!
YESSSSS
VERNON, ct - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 15:33:59 (EST)
TAPERJONES,Dont sit around and jones,COME JAM!!!
YESSSSS
VERNON, ct - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 15:32:52 (EST)
TAPERJONES,Dont sit around and jones,COME JAM!!!
YESSSSS
VERNON, ct - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 15:30:27 (EST)
Hey there Taperjones, Tonights the night."JAMMYJAMMIN"...
THE SOUND
?, ? - Monday, February 25, 2002 at 14:27:14 (EST)
Any taper lose a black permanent marker on Sat. at the Pearl St. gig? I have it!
Stagger Lee
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 13:41:00 (EST)
that was me posting
sk
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 12:47:12 (EST)
Buzz is the king of lap dances
lapdancerecipient
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 12:37:01 (EST)
oh yeah the reason why i popped in here is to see if any of you busy world famous tapers could possibly make me copies of friday and saturday's shows? i have blanks...pleaaaase?
bethy (terrapin_flyer9@yahoo.com)
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 12:11:28 (EST)
geez buzz first the rose thing and now, now your giving LAP DANCES? geez what has become of you?
bethyb
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 12:09:43 (EST)
I am searching for some Delbert McClinton shows...anyone have any? I have lots to trade.
Laurie (lauriepw@earthlink.net)
- Monday, February 25, 2002 at 08:07:10 (EST)
that wasn't me
sk
- Sunday, February 24, 2002 at 19:24:42 (EST)
When I think about me I touch myself.
sk
- Sunday, February 24, 2002 at 15:40:33 (EST)
Thanks for the private lap dance BUZZ.
Chet
- Sunday, February 24, 2002 at 13:49:45 (EST)
hey chrispy.. email me with your new cox email address
funkyzen
- Sunday, February 24, 2002 at 11:36:13 (EST)
failed grammar class i see...
stretch
- Saturday, February 23, 2002 at 22:08:55 (EST)
why dont all you dope smoking hippies go jump off a bridge
jerk off
- Saturday, February 23, 2002 at 19:42:58 (EST)
Sleepy time
Of course
- Saturday, February 23, 2002 at 15:22:46 (EST)
What kind of tea?
?
- Saturday, February 23, 2002 at 10:52:01 (EST)
Hi guys! I made some tea! Anyone want some?
Drink up!
- Saturday, February 23, 2002 at 09:33:56 (EST)
hey yall...i just got hooked up with soundforge xp 4.5...any advo on using or tips and such...i especially wanna use it to clean up track boundry pops...any advice would be greatly appreciated..thanks..
scotty (Scamc@aol.com)
- Friday, February 22, 2002 at 15:40:32 (EST)
Hey there taperjones,we be jammin monday night!Call ME!!!
Guy
vernon, ct - Friday, February 22, 2002 at 13:59:15 (EST)
hardy hair hair
a hare
- Friday, February 22, 2002 at 13:50:50 (EST)
After Camp Creek, the question will be, "WHAT hair?"
JahWood
- Friday, February 22, 2002 at 10:04:26 (EST)
why is everyone so concerned about my hair?
sk
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 20:44:16 (EST)
Oh, sorry TP, I'll try to stick to more appropriate topics, like sk's hair... :P
Tans
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 20:14:29 (EST)
i wouldnt be talking taper police
dogpatch
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 20:04:48 (EST)
I suppose that's one for you two to work in out and in again. I will be sure not to turn my back around you fellas.
ep
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 18:32:51 (EST)
TANSLEY, this is not a dating service, take it elsewhere please.
TAPER POLICE
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 17:30:27 (EST)
Yo, Frankie P, you've got my new number dude, my door is always open...peace
Tans (mtansley@mail.com)
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 16:59:57 (EST)
Taper, gimme a call soon as ya can...
uj
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 16:47:23 (EST)
it was not me!
sk
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 16:26:12 (EST)
ep, that was sk posting as me, imagine someone doing such a nasty thing? he is just pissed because he wants to give me a lap dance and keep telling him no
BUZZ
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 14:00:20 (EST)
Tans where are you man ...... See you at the shows brother
FrankPerrella (FrankPerrella@hotmail.com)
Waterbury, CT - Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 09:54:24 (EST)
Hey all, anyone have a copy of a show back in November that Scott played with the Mark McKay Band at the Living Room? I think at least one person was taping; I would love to track down a copy...Thanks, Mark
mark mckay (mark@markmckaymusic.com)
Frederick, MD - Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 07:53:11 (EST)
That is so gay!! WFC,,,,,buzzolette
ep
- Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 00:09:19 (EST)
Once sk shaves his head bald at camp I'll be singing Love Me Tender Love Me True to him on stage
BUZZ
- Wednesday, February 20, 2002 at 17:55:39 (EST)
Hey tough guy! Get off my Mom -- I just got off yours!
hee haw
- Wednesday, February 20, 2002 at 16:38:45 (EST)
oh yeah...perro does rock, indeed.
m ( )
.02 cents in the gritty city, - Wednesday, February 20, 2002 at 09:43:57 (EST)
LOVEY if you had half a brain and an ounce of sack you could say that to me in person, not humiliate yourself on the internet, and if you are Craig Swift, I'd love to tell the forum all about you, you sure are a masterpiece thanx to your MUM and I'd love to introduce you to the real world someday, so why don't you stop by the farm ASAP, ok Luv?
CHRIS from RI
AKA GGW, - Tuesday, February 19, 2002 at 19:17:31 (EST)
yes, i listened to it 3 times in a row, blows against the empire is maybe my favorite album ever.....and those perro disks are like sitting in on the sessions of some of that and so much more from that special time....... those bluegrass disks you gave me are great Jah.....thanks...amd thank goodness for shnamp
BUZZ
- Tuesday, February 19, 2002 at 17:42:07 (EST)
PERRO man is the stuff. Kids and Dogs, Jer and Croz acoustic. that is MAGIC!
thingfish
- Tuesday, February 19, 2002 at 17:33:21 (EST)
HiYa, TAPAHS!! Hey, BUZZ, you're right...PERRO kicks ass!:-)
JahWood
- Tuesday, February 19, 2002 at 15:58:02 (EST)
Mule definately allows taping, and at most venues, its possible (albeit not guaranteed) to get a board patch...I think it depends on whether the room supports a good mix, or not. I'd bring mics just in case.
mark
- Tuesday, February 19, 2002 at 12:58:40 (EST)
chris from r.i is a geek gone wild ggw is crispy times 2million see ya creek rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lovey the freek (lovey@peeto.org)
Key West, ma - Tuesday, February 19, 2002 at 11:58:02 (EST)
that's a big hell ya on the mule, but of course you'll wanna check your venue rules...
scotty
- Monday, February 18, 2002 at 22:30:38 (EST)
Probably a dumb question, but does Govt Mule let you tape? I have been just taping Creek for a about 3 years now, want to tape some new stuff.
kbooth (kbooth@rochester.rr.com)
Rochester , NY - Monday, February 18, 2002 at 21:37:51 (EST)
Anyone want to trade some Creek CD's?? Have plenty to offer..check my list: www.geocities.com/traincry/CDR.html I will offer a few B&P's too.. E-mail me if interested.
Steve C (shakedownst1@aol.com)
- Monday, February 18, 2002 at 17:09:23 (EST)
Hi Tapers!
BUZZ
- Sunday, February 17, 2002 at 19:38:27 (EST)
Is there anyone wandering this forum at the moment that could give me some server addy's so I could snag a few shows while I am on a temporary cable connection, I have all afternoon to soak up some shn files, PLEASE HELP ASAP, I would be extrememly grateful for any immediate responses, I still have these addies; donbean,grizzlymagic,and pigpens'. Thanx Anyone!!! Have a beauty of a sUnday! PhunkyZ did you tape last night? Cath up wit ya for that trade we are workin on ASAP. Thanx again. peace all
Chris (creekfreek101@aol.com)
RI - Sunday, February 17, 2002 at 11:55:35 (EST)
...guy....sounds great...
TaperJones
- Saturday, February 16, 2002 at 18:43:31 (EST)
Hey taper We be jammin on monday night Sweeeeet,dude call me.The Kernal just bought the bass,Yesssss, CALL ME FOR THE SOUND...
Guy
vernon, ct - Saturday, February 16, 2002 at 15:03:39 (EST)
TJ this is the end of a long time coming. just remember honesty is the best policy. take it or leave it
..................
- Saturday, February 16, 2002 at 09:07:18 (EST)
Taping of Scottness was off limits in '97, so you may have trouble with that request.
*
- Friday, February 15, 2002 at 22:11:19 (EST)
BUZZ, whats your email?
norma
- Friday, February 15, 2002 at 21:50:29 (EST)
JAHwood ! oh my GOD! PER&RO ! Loser being written ! AMAZING! Now, that was one hell of a band. "on the deck of a starship....."
BUZZ
- Friday, February 15, 2002 at 19:08:37 (EST)
Shoe not with your doll collection ?
curious
- Friday, February 15, 2002 at 16:27:13 (EST)
sk, you left your boxer shorts here last night again, this is the last time I am going to mix them in with the naughty little things in my wash
shoe
- Friday, February 15, 2002 at 15:54:09 (EST)
O.K. here I beg...I'm looking for a copy of scottness @the living room on 2/5/97,if anyone has a copy. I don't have very many good sounding creek shows, just a few favs that I've had for years. I'm willing to pay postage, media and what have you. I'm currently unable to copy tapes due to a busted deck, but I have a few camp creek posters from a few years back I could also include. Thanks......
kubiak (kubiak1@lycos.com)
dgo, CO - Friday, February 15, 2002 at 15:50:56 (EST)
Well death isn't really so bad compared to being around her!
Kosmic Yoko Ono
- Friday, February 15, 2002 at 15:17:48 (EST)
i bet lots of puppy's and kittens are buried their too
unknown pet cemetary
- Friday, February 15, 2002 at 13:36:36 (EST)
I wonder how many bodies are buried in her yard?
Kosmic Chaz
- Friday, February 15, 2002 at 13:08:04 (EST)
nope
nah no way
- Friday, February 15, 2002 at 13:00:15 (EST)
I wonder if she's bright enough to figure this out?
Looney Tunes begats her
- Friday, February 15, 2002 at 12:42:09 (EST)
yup she be crazy kinda like a barrel full of monkeys totally nuts!
just a waiste of time
- Friday, February 15, 2002 at 12:09:23 (EST)
Toys in the attic, crazy. Truely gone fishing.
Floyd (not the barber)
- Friday, February 15, 2002 at 09:12:31 (EST)
She's nuts i tell ya, positively and truly out of her mind.
Kosmic Chaz
- Friday, February 15, 2002 at 09:10:14 (EST)
Taper, my answering machine is busted. Didn't get most of your message. Give a call when ya can.....
uj
- Friday, February 15, 2002 at 08:57:55 (EST)
TJ,,,,Come home,,,,,,
ep
- Friday, February 15, 2002 at 01:53:07 (EST)
...wooooooooooooooooo...
TaperJones
- Thursday, February 14, 2002 at 21:28:17 (EST)
I knew it! No wonder all the drums>space sounds the same...
uj
- Thursday, February 14, 2002 at 20:26:38 (EST)
http://www.thebear.org/albums.html#anchor753229
There are many tapes in circulation which claim to be of "rare" shows. The reason these shows are "rare" is usually because they never happened. In addition there are many tapes in circulation which are not as marked. The only way a person can be sure the tape in their hand is of the show written on the box is if they were at the show and recorded the tape themselves on their own machine. From the feedback I have had, and the tapes I have listened to, I estimate 30% or more of both audience and "board" tapes/CD's are either mislabelled or faked.
this is from Bears web site, and I thought it would be of interest here, the band is question is the grateful dead

BUZZ
- Thursday, February 14, 2002 at 20:05:37 (EST)
...you got it ep...thanx...
TaperJones
- Thursday, February 14, 2002 at 18:56:54 (EST)
mornin' all... anyone who emailed me about trades, can you email me again? all the messages in my inbox along with my whole address book got deleted when i upgraded my computah :(
funkyzen (phunkyzen@prodigy.net)
- Wednesday, February 13, 2002 at 09:32:51 (EST)
Carl and TJ, TJ and Carl, Thanks big time,,,,,,all things in all good time!!
ep
- Wednesday, February 13, 2002 at 01:31:18 (EST)
hey pigpen!!! you lucky dude! (((((safe travels))))) to maui!~ would you bring some warmth and sunshine home with you please?... hey Kirk, i got your package today, i am sorry to say yours is still sitting here waiting to go out... i'll get it out tomorrow!~ sorry about that, my mind's got a mind of it's own... :o sunshine and smiles,
stiney
- Tuesday, February 12, 2002 at 23:04:12 (EST)
wow, someone is bitter out here today
sk
- Tuesday, February 12, 2002 at 18:23:49 (EST)
steve, your fan club called trying to locate you. Don't let it happen again. call family services now, we are not happy about it and we are not your family, make it clear to them we were not in a relationship ever.
Get over it please
pinellaspark, florida - Tuesday, February 12, 2002 at 16:44:30 (EST)
steve, your fan club called trying to locate you. Don't let it happen again. call family services now, we are not happy about it and we are not your family, make it clear to them we were not in a relationship ever.
Get over it please
pinellaspark, florida - Tuesday, February 12, 2002 at 16:44:11 (EST)
Indeed, BUZZ! That biopic just gave me the warm'n'fuzzies!:-) And it was because of -- to use sk's term -- The Great Gar via Old & In The Way that I slowly got into bluegrass & folk.
JahWood
- Tuesday, February 12, 2002 at 13:49:28 (EST)
I have been hitting the blue-grass music more since seeing garteful dawg. Man oh man it was nice to see jerry without all the trapings of dead-dom, just having a good time with his biddies, playing the roots music.
BUZZ
- Tuesday, February 12, 2002 at 13:24:28 (EST)
But I bet that cartridge is reusable, fz. And given the likelihood of that technology developing, it may be a matter of time before you can record a show live without having to change cartridges for the next set.
JahWood
- Tuesday, February 12, 2002 at 13:23:20 (EST)
that does look cool jah.. except for the $30 cartridges that only hold 2 hours of music.. that can get a bit pricey. it would be really good if it did 24 bit recording @ 96khz.
funkyzen
- Tuesday, February 12, 2002 at 13:20:22 (EST)
Thanks for tip on the bluegrassbox.com site Jah......ALL THE SHOWS ! HAHahahahahahahahahahahaha!
BUZZ
- Tuesday, February 12, 2002 at 12:49:57 (EST)
One note on bluegrassbox.com: In just over 2 months, the site will be no more if the bluegrassbox.com folks cannot find a new hosting home. Here's hoping! I've downloaded a couple of nice DSBDs (John Hartford, Vassar Clements) and left work downloading a DSBD of Bela & Jerry Douglas. I'm going to try to d/l as much as possible, md5-checksum, then archive to Shorten CDR, so I can collect then share as much as possible.
JahWood
- Tuesday, February 12, 2002 at 10:51:39 (EST)
The future of audio taping? http://www.nagrausa.com/Nagra%20V%20prelim.htm
JahWood
- Tuesday, February 12, 2002 at 10:49:50 (EST)
nope stiney, MAUI BOUND! :) :) :) i embark on my journey this evening, i can hardly contain myself !! but man am i hungry :)
pigpen
- Tuesday, February 12, 2002 at 09:43:08 (EST)
hi pigpen! :) see you saturday?...
stiney
- Tuesday, February 12, 2002 at 09:37:13 (EST)
HOLY SH!T JAH!!! my friend has been telling me to go to that site for soooo long, and i finally do cuz of you and WOW!!!!!! so much music!! wahoo!! thanks! :) love and light guys!
pigpen
- Tuesday, February 12, 2002 at 08:30:06 (EST)
...anyone know mikes or paulies e mail...tahnx
TaperJones
- Monday, February 11, 2002 at 18:31:05 (EST)
For those who dig bluegrass like I, go to www.bluegrassbox.com. From there, the rest is self-explanatory.:-)
JahWood
- Monday, February 11, 2002 at 11:10:48 (EST)
...ya sk...i know about your 2 cut JAR's...
TaperJones
- Sunday, February 10, 2002 at 19:39:44 (EST)
that's excellent taperjones, yeah after that 1:45:00 1st set ya just had to wonder, will it fit on a 90M? i woulda figured that you'd at least get thru the end of the set and put the encores on another tape, but that's a drag having 10 minutes of music on a whole tape......and i've been wrong before thinking the show would fit on a 90M dat, i think i just recently cut 2 JAR's b/c of these wrong decisions.......but as lead deck you maintained proper taper etiquite and did the right thing, yuo sir are on the comeback trail, i'm just happy you made a killing on the bobble-head dolls and now that you're independently wealthy you can get that fragile eggshell mind of yours back in the taping game
sk
- Sunday, February 10, 2002 at 18:35:53 (EST)
Hey FriBri......hope ya made it home alright. I liked those seirra nevada's a little too much last night! HA! Good to see ya man....take care
Bobby T
- Sunday, February 10, 2002 at 18:21:09 (EST)
http://www.oddtodd.com/index2.html
laid off
- Sunday, February 10, 2002 at 17:13:59 (EST)
Any buzz on another Creek in Colorado Tour???
Ren E. Gade
Durange-O, CO - Sunday, February 10, 2002 at 16:23:33 (EST)
...he sk...the show was 3hrs 5 min(a little tooooo close for me)...bri has his on 1 90M...since i was first in line, i decided not to take a chance, so i put another DAT in at setbreak...
TaperJones
- Sunday, February 10, 2002 at 13:27:39 (EST)
glad you got those mics taper, i've listened to quite a few other, more expensive mics and i always loved the sound of the beyers, next we need to get you set up with a real mic stand, shock mounts and a proper cable, were you able to fit it all on a 90M tape?
sk
- Sunday, February 10, 2002 at 13:15:33 (EST)
...last nights test with the beyers m88's was a success...great sounding tape...yessssssssss...
TaperJonesh
- Sunday, February 10, 2002 at 13:09:24 (EST)
stretchy, yes it would... Kanga, you have mail!~
stiney
- Sunday, February 10, 2002 at 10:45:14 (EST)
i would think 1-1 would be good enough, yes?
stretch
- Sunday, February 10, 2002 at 01:35:14 (EST)
ISO: 1/25/2002, will trade a 2 for 1 deal in return, I appreciate any and all responses, and thank you in advance, for tapers are the turnstiles to the archives, Peace & Grease & GOD BLESS, CU all at Lupo's!!!
Kanga (creekfreek101@aol.com)
RI - Saturday, February 09, 2002 at 06:26:38 (EST)
In answer to your question Mr. Wood, there is no Green up here in heaven, and you ain't going to make it up here unless you mend your ways, and fast!!!
Sigmund
- Friday, February 08, 2002 at 15:38:44 (EST)
Hey all you string'd players. For great deals on strings, check out Juststrings.com Great deals and selections.
uj
- Friday, February 08, 2002 at 10:52:59 (EST)
ISO: Camp Creek 2001 day 1 (7/28/01)...I've got to hear the part with Derek Trucks...although I want both sets...preferably on CDR. thanks in advance...
mark (maxmule01@hotmail.com)
- Thursday, February 07, 2002 at 09:53:51 (EST)
EAC only way to go http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/
:)
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 18:50:03 (EST)
oh well..well hey stine...check out that eac anyway..it's kinda standard on the etree.org areas so it's good too have and know..plus it's free..later daze..
scotty
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 17:26:00 (EST)
The wine may be nice, but how's the GREEN?
JahWood
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 16:58:41 (EST)
Well being dead isn't as bad as it seems. The wine is very good up here, we'll see you on March 24, 2023, we'll chat then. Until such time, you sir should mend your ways, we dead people see ALL that goes on, your long lost relatives are deeply concerned for your well being.
Sigmund
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 16:57:41 (EST)
I guess I have to use ;-)s to indicate humor, as you missed that, Mr. Fraud! Now, how is YOUR pathetic life?
JahWood
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 16:44:06 (EST)
Yes of course not, that's why you are so defensive about it.
Sigmund
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 16:41:42 (EST)
I'm afraid not, Sigmund FrAUd!
JahWood
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 16:35:20 (EST)
I guess we can file that under "THE TRUTH HURTS", isn't that so Mr. Wood?
Sir Sigmund
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 16:26:39 (EST)
scotty, that's a negatory on set 1 of 10-24-90, and the talking heads was filler on another disc... sorry!~ you've got it all...
stiney
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 16:03:15 (EST)
Sigmund, you can pull your head out of your ass now!
JahWood
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 16:00:51 (EST)
or even bettah..do you have the whole talkin heads show? u no me...always down to trade..i got some stuff ya might dig...
scotty
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 16:00:21 (EST)
oh no they sound good...but EAC is a free program that puts the music into wavs onto your hard drive..this enables the program to duplicate the discs the best possible and in fact can even correct gaps and crap...it's better than disc to disc which often can occur buffer underruns and other crapola...just do a search for eac and it'll come up...then down load for free and i'll help ya from there...
s
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 15:54:02 (EST)
oh hey stiney..do you have the first set to 10-24-90?..if so lemme know and we can work sumthin out...
scotty
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 15:51:21 (EST)
EAC... hmmmm... nope, i don't think i'm familiar w/ EAC... do the Cd's sound OK? I can re-spin them if they sound funny, and play around with this EAC feature you speak of...
stiney
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 15:48:35 (EST)
heya stiney..got mine too..muchas GARCIAs..lol hey are u familiar with EAC?lemme know and i'll show u the best, although a little more time comsuming way to burn discs..later days...:0)
scotty
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 15:30:58 (EST)
sigmund i think not i'm not that type of lady
smiles
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 15:21:33 (EST)
Ruth, hows about me & you hooking up tonite at my place?
Sigmund
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 15:17:33 (EST)
LOL Sigmund
Doctor Ruth
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 15:08:02 (EST)
It is painfully obvious here that JahWood needs to feel better about himself and his miserable pathetic life by constantly picking on and harassing the mild-mannered and forever good natured SK. In my observations of both these young men I can honestly say that SK would never stoop so low as JahWood has, time and time again. If I had a dollar for everytime he mentioned inflatable blow-up dolls I'd be a rich dead man. Who's kidding whom here about the blow-up dolls, seems to me he makes light of SK constantly in this area, is this just a cover-up for his sexual preferences?
Sigmund Frued
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 15:01:10 (EST)
stiney, got your package today>thanks so much!!!!!!!!!!youve got mail:)
dogpatch
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 13:47:11 (EST)
The real question: To go thru this and be a MAN or to back out and forever be called a WUSS!!
JahWood
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 13:24:49 (EST)
he shaves or not that is the question
the peanut gallery
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 11:56:26 (EST)
so there never was a bet sk was tellin' the truth huh who would of thunk it
i thought he made a bet
Its Up To Him Now, If - Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 11:54:55 (EST)
A reprint from ProMix Magazine, October 2001 issue: "To put it in everyday terms, a respectable digital audio recording is an elusive beast. There are so many factors to consider before you actually hit the record button. In the 16-bit world one must consider the importance of proper level adjustment because you really need to ride those levels high but be wary of the digital clip. Analog clipping can actually sound good, and many enginners will testify that analog distortion is key when recording an electric bass guitar. Digital distortion never sounds good and one quick moment of clip can render that part of a digital recording both unlistenable and unusable. There is a little secret I will pass along. This is the one true secret that applies to recording digitally in the field. If you really want your recordings to stand out and sound authentic, clean, and lively; if you want people's jaws to drop when they hear your finished product here's what you need to do: shave your head. Tapers with shaved heads always get the best recordings." -Stephen R. Lewis, Producer and Engineer, Atlantic Records
Scour (halftimeshow@campcreek.com)
- Wednesday, February 06, 2002 at 11:33:57 (EST)
SK,,, Be a man, do the right thing,,,,have dignity!!!!
ep
- Tuesday, February 05, 2002 at 20:56:54 (EST)
in baseball it's different: it's the yankees that win championships (well most of the time anyway), keep dreaming about those pats though, if the pats win the super bowl i will personally shave my head on-stage at camp creek this summer! sk - Friday, January 18, 2002 at 12:00:04 (EST) [204.89.226.65]
*
- Tuesday, February 05, 2002 at 19:18:12 (EST)
thank you mr. old folk i will email them and see what i can do
cd miser
- Tuesday, February 05, 2002 at 17:23:58 (EST)
thanks stiney:) i shall await the parcel's presence
dogpatch
- Tuesday, February 05, 2002 at 13:39:31 (EST)
I had a problem collecting on the office max hi value cd rebate myself. I sent them email on the i/o magic web page, they have a rebate inquirery section. They ignored the first email but the second one where I threatened to report them to the attorney generals consumer fraud division for not respondinf to the first request got me the $20 check in a week. You have to stay after them.
old folk (glcreek@aol.com)
- Tuesday, February 05, 2002 at 13:23:29 (EST)
hey scotty and Dogpatch, your tapes went out 1st class yesterday around noon... Kirk, yours wil go out in either today's mail, but prolly tomorrow's... i'm cuttin' it close here, as far as getting them done before i have to get to work today!~ happy listening my kind freaky friends!~ sunshine and smiles,
stiney
- Tuesday, February 05, 2002 at 09:51:21 (EST)
ummm, that's "stab" not "tab", although the latter is probably true too ;-)
Shoey
- Monday, February 04, 2002 at 11:36:10 (EST)
sk & js- That can definately be a chore, but it's also definately possible. Using editing software (Cooledit, Soundforge et. al.) you can take John's approach by lowering the volume of the appluase sections and then raising teh volume of the whole show. Another way might be to run it through some sort of mastering compressor (Timeworks MC, T-Racks, et. al.) which will effectively even-out the overall balance. Doing so may possibly color the recording, though- which can be good or bad but when done well can really liven up a recording. I've heard some really good versions of these, and some really bad ones as well... Be happy to take a tab at it for you. As an excercise, it'd be interesting to compare the sound of two different approaches as well. - I take it your deck is running ok?
Shoey
- Monday, February 04, 2002 at 11:34:46 (EST)
sk... you can record the show into a program like sound forge and raise and lower the volume wherever you need to.. if you need a copy i'll bring it to lupo's for ya.
funkyzen
- Monday, February 04, 2002 at 09:16:16 (EST)
sk: it would be easy to lower the crowd and raise the levels of the music. So long as the recording of the music wasn't so low that the noise floor would be prominent once those levels were raised......I'll gladly give it a shot for you....
js
- Sunday, February 03, 2002 at 17:44:01 (EST)
alright,it's kapoho.damn typos!
!
- Sunday, February 03, 2002 at 14:45:55 (EST)
hey,that's kapho,no o after the p....peace.
oonkabaloonba
- Sunday, February 03, 2002 at 14:41:46 (EST)
http://www.kapoho.net/
more D/Ling
- Sunday, February 03, 2002 at 14:30:39 (EST)
shoey, or anyone else for that matter, i stealth taped leo kottke the other night at the sanders theater in harvard, he doesn't play very loud and for the first 6 or 7 songs the levels were low, then i knocked the levels up and was taping on 10 and they still were low, but when the crowd clapped at the end of the song the levels would be buried in the dreaded "OVER" levels, so i'd dial them down until the crowd settled down, then upped them to 10 again, so my question is this, is it possible to run this thru a computer and digitally raise the level of his guitar and lower the level of the crowd at the end of the song, b/c despite all this, the recording came out nice
sk
- Sunday, February 03, 2002 at 13:46:31 (EST)
gdlive.com has started a file sharing program like futher.net http://www.deadshare.com/
BUZZ
- Sunday, February 03, 2002 at 13:40:03 (EST)
http://www.imation.com/en_US/product.jhtml?Id=IM_FAM110
Hmmmmmm
- Sunday, February 03, 2002 at 12:02:26 (EST)
today's office max add....100 spindle imations 39.99-$25 mail in rebate=14.99. that was the best deal I saw from this mornings adds.
mark
- Sunday, February 03, 2002 at 10:14:02 (EST)
http://www.relix.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?searchterm=max+creek&SUBMIT=Go+Get+It%21
*
- Sunday, February 03, 2002 at 09:42:19 (EST)
AVOID GENERICS AT ALL COST....
scotty
- Sunday, February 03, 2002 at 00:53:10 (EST)
still haven't got my &^%$ rebate though
mad mizer
- Sunday, February 03, 2002 at 00:12:37 (EST)
keep your eyes peeled! next time i see somethin like it i will post. but back in october i picked up a couple of 100pks of hi-val discs at office max for 29.99 with a $25 mail-in rebate... that's a nickel a disc- and not a single coaster after 120+ discs burned. that's like a record or something.
cd mizer
- Sunday, February 03, 2002 at 00:11:48 (EST)
Spin Docter is a nice easy program to make waves out of tapes. Really easy. If ya need a copy just e-mail me and I'll get it to ya. Hey Pickle....Just got El Buho, thank you sooooo much for going down there and recordeing. What a gift to all of us! Thank you again.
Bobby T (creekhead2000@yahoo.com)
- Saturday, February 02, 2002 at 14:18:48 (EST)
"well they call it stormy monday, tuesdays just as bad; wednesday worse and thursday's oh so bad"...sounds good stiney..hey ya'll what do i need(programs/hardward) to convert tapes over to cd?
scotty
- Saturday, February 02, 2002 at 13:41:08 (EST)
hey scotty, good deal!~ if you have a bj's membership it's always 29.99 for a 100 pack of fuji's... or, at least every time i've gone in there to get them... ;) your discs will go out on mon, since i have to pass the PO on the way to work and it will actually be open... have a good day you freaky tapers!~ sunshine and smiles,
stiney
- Saturday, February 02, 2002 at 13:30:04 (EST)
hey there bargain shoppers...just saw 100pk fujis (what i use) at best buy for 29.99 with instant rebate + a 10 mail in i think...i'm gonna go get two!!!
scotty
- Saturday, February 02, 2002 at 12:35:52 (EST)
Staples has some good deals this week on 20 packs of IBM 80 minute discs....I've had great luck with them lately
Skeets
- Saturday, February 02, 2002 at 11:57:48 (EST)
thanks fzen and thongfish... pigpen, you're my only hope... ;)
stiney
- Saturday, February 02, 2002 at 10:32:41 (EST)
if you go to office max, buy the imations, or check the package on the K discs, because last time I was there, the Imations were the Japanese Taiyo Yuden base disc, which is better than the ones made in Taiwan, which the K discs were.
info
- Saturday, February 02, 2002 at 10:01:36 (EST)
an update to that office max post (after looking through their rebate booklet) from last night, the 50 spindle Khypermedia will have a $7.00 rebate between 2-17-02 and 2-23-02, the 200 pack Khypermedia will have a 35.00 rebate between 2-24-02 and 3-2-02
BUZZ
- Saturday, February 02, 2002 at 09:54:39 (EST)
Looking for a copy of a CD of a CREEK show. Wanted to Get a copy of "LUPOS 12-27-96." Found an old tape of it and it blew me away. Anyway, would love to hear the second set for a first time. Let me know if it's out there.
Pete (logar11@people.com)
Rochester , NY - Friday, February 01, 2002 at 21:30:27 (EST)
at Office Max, 50 spindle of Khypermedia ( or Value Disk unbranded because they ran out of the others) $9.99 . and also at Office Max, Imation 50 spindle $14.00 rebate between 2-10-02 and 2-16-02, and Imation 100 spindle $25.00 rebate between 2-3-02 and 2-9-02. the 100 spindle is regular price $44.99 , I know because I bought on LAST week " D'OUT "
BUZZ
- Friday, February 01, 2002 at 21:14:02 (EST)
hahaha..."micro-surgery"...thats for sure!!
b
- Friday, February 01, 2002 at 15:56:06 (EST)
How did your D8 turn out, sk? Hope that and the tape is ok!
JahWood
- Friday, February 01, 2002 at 15:35:33 (EST)
Hey sk, forgive me if I sounded bleak about your D8- I didn't mean to come off so pessimistic. And if Bri has the mico-surgery chops at least you've got an option now! Hopefully, though, the tape came out and all is good. Might I recommend getting the deck serviced/cleaned just to be safe?
Shoey
- Friday, February 01, 2002 at 14:02:43 (EST)
sorry stiney.. you sent me your list to my old work address and i don't work there anymore
funkyzen
- Friday, February 01, 2002 at 12:05:47 (EST)
stiney, i used your website for a list. sorry
thingfish
- Friday, February 01, 2002 at 10:50:22 (EST)
Hey Lsun... or funkyzen... or thongfishy... or anyone else i may have forgotten... do any of you have a copy of my tape list from the last... ohh, i dunno... say 6 months??? my disc got scrambled a while back, and i really, really don't want to have to re-compile all of that info all over again... :(( please fwd it to me if you have it!! thanks!~
stiney (fire_faerey@yahoo.com)
- Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 23:54:33 (EST)
hey stiney..it's all wood in tha hood...i should get to know my mailman on a personal level...lol...maybe i'll get rushes on my shows...imagine the 420 mailman...you never know...lol...peace..
scotty
- Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 22:28:50 (EST)
hey scotty, it's all cool... i know how it feels to wait for tapes and such... all good things in all good time, right?... ;) Kirk, your tapes are 1/2 done at this point, and i will prolly get them out w/ the rest of the batch going out on either sat or mon... peace out!~
stiney
- Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 18:26:25 (EST)
oooppps, "ground out" not "round out"
b
- Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 14:03:20 (EST)
FZ, thats not why NYE came out bad, it had nothing to do with someone's levels being too high. it was a mono 1/4" ->rca,then split. Sometimes people dont check there connections(1/8" stereo-mini) if its not plugged in all the way, it will round out the entire patch chain. Also,if someone in the chain uses "mic-in" by mistake, it will attenuate the signal throughout the patch chain. But as NYE , the levels and signal were perfect before the band started. Oh yeah , SK, let me know if you want help wit your D8, as I'm familiar with how it comes apart(if you recall my hoops and hops accident at flipper), and we can probably save the tape too.
bri (my2cents)
- Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 14:01:55 (EST)
Max Creek rocks yo!
Illin' Out
RI - Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 13:45:08 (EST)
that's Shoey, don't insult him calling him shoe hahahaha
snip snip
- Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 13:14:36 (EST)
definitely shoe! i saw that in my musicians friend catalog last night.. we could even use that thing on the bottom in situations where LOTS of people want splits (like nye).. after so many splits we could put it into that thing that re-amplifies the signal so basically we could have another hot set of splits... that way people wouldn't need to come out of other people's outs.. i know that my NYE tapes sound all distorted because someone furthur up the line had their levels waaay too high :(
funkyzen
- Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 13:00:40 (EST)
http://www.kramerelectronics.com/pdf/sd7816b.pdf
digital patch bay (priced@$1800)
- Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 12:10:14 (EST)
Funkyzen! That's a phat find! I wonder if we could use it between the sbd and the decks, though. The way it works is you have to put it inline between the equipment causing the ground issue (maybe a guitar amp or other piece of pa gear). Might come in handy for Costa at the LR or other clubs with ground loop issues. It's cheap, too, which is nice :)
Shoey
- Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 11:51:01 (EST)
Ohhhh, boy, sk. That happened to me once. I haven't used my D8 since. The cause is probably a tape jam, just like we used to get in ye olde analog days... The tape is probably wrapped around the head mechanism. I would suggest closing the door to the deck and turning it back on and attempt to eject it again. Maybe even try rewinding or fast forwarding- just to see if the deck dislodges the tape. And then try to eject it again. I ended up taking my d8 apart and don't recommend it! Tons of little springies & pieces & parts fell out all over the place. And that was the end of my D8.
Shoey
- Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 11:32:47 (EST)
okay, who's had this problem? last night after the scheips/peev show i unload my sony d8 dat deck and can't seem to remove the tape, i didn't want to force it out so it's still in there, what shall i do?
sk
- Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 09:47:46 (EST)
man... is it gettin' technical in here or what?... i'm havin' a hell of a time followin' this thread...
LSun
- Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 09:15:41 (EST)
I would use the most current version cdwav162.exe ... its probally the same prog just with more bug fixes. I use 160 tho, just havent updated yet :)
rokk*
- Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 06:13:34 (EST)
oh hey rokk which version should i use?
Scotty
- Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 01:01:16 (EST)
what do you guys think of this? could it eliminate the buzz? http://www.midiguy.com/shwrm/ebtech.html
funkyzen
- Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 01:01:01 (EST)
hey rokk...that's what i need...thanks for the info..hey if you send me your addy i'll send you the show i fix..peace..
scotty (Scamc@aol.com)
- Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 00:57:58 (EST)
Hey Now... Any of you kind folks out there in creek land have the 12/1/2001 Paradise show? And if so could ya do a B&P? It was my girlfriends first Creek X-perience and god knows i dont think she remembers much of it!
Dave (GratefulDave@aol.com)
Waltham, MA - Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 21:54:12 (EST)
scott ... those annoying skips may have occured when someone tried to remedy a TAO recorded disc by using a "quick and easy" program to remove 2 second gaps. The best way to fully remove them is quite easy, although it may sound hard. Go to http://www.etree.org/cdwave.html and download cdwav, its a VERY easy program to use and is free. And learning to use this program will be helpful if you decide to seed shows. Just load in the .wav file and manually "trim" the dead air ... 1 track will become 2 tracks, the one with the music you will keep, the tiny one with the silence you just delete. Then Re-Burn! Its a little time consuming, but once you learn the program is very easy, and you can usually do it just by looking at the visuals and not even having to listen to the track. Hope that helps!
rokk*
- Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 20:45:51 (EST)
TJ- phantom power is a 48V signal used to power some microphones (e.g. condensers). The voltage is sent through your XLR jacks to the mics. TTBOMK, it's a circuit that only feeds it if it needs it- in other words, having phantom power on with your 88's shouldn't pose a problem. The 48V is not present on outputs, just mic inputs. I don't think it would pose a problem if you ran a balanced (XLR) feed from a sbd to your mixer and your phantom power was turned on. Hopefully nothing :) but you made a good point- if you don't need it, it ain't gonna help things to have it on!
Shoey
- Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 19:43:47 (EST)
hey stiney...i did the sleep action...lord knows i get 1/2 of what a normal human needs....i know u r kind...lol
scotty
- Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 19:16:41 (EST)
...hey shoey...one thing i was wondering is these guys with the mixers that do there own matrix mixes have a feature (im sure you have heard of it) called "phantom power"...on my mixer, channels 1-4 have XRL inputs as well as 1/4 inputs and only channels 1-4 have the phantom power...If someone where to plug the feed from the board into the other 2 channels (channels 3-4)and turned on the phantom power, I could see it sending "voltage" back thru the line to the board...I dont use this feature on my mixer...but dont know if anyone does...or maybe does and doesn't know they got it on...just another possibility...
TaperJones
- Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 19:14:41 (EST)
hey scotty... nope, i haven't forgotten... the problem is, i work when the PO is open, and i tend to sleep late on saturdays... PO's here close before I get up... i don't have a long lunch anymore, and the PO is too far from work to get there and back... yours is not the only package waiting ot get sent out, either and i apologize for that... my schedule changes Monday, so I will DEFINTELY send out ALL those packages I have neatly stacked in a corner of the room... i'd put them in my car but it's bad the the media... ok, gotta fly... sunshine and smiles,
stiney
- Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 19:11:04 (EST)
hey tapers...question #420..sometimes live discs contain a pop/click in between tracks...just a nanosec thing(not 2 secs), but annoying nonetheless...what is a good way to remove that? i tried some features with eac and it didn't seem to work..how about cooledit2000? would it be worth the shareware price to invest? would it be really good for cleaning up discs, and if so, how is the usability for your average joe..any ideas would be apprec...
scotty ( Scamc@aol.com)
- Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 18:23:04 (EST)
hey stiney...you forgot about me?? or maybe you don't love me anymore..:0(
scotty
- Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 17:37:29 (EST)
we did use 1/4 inch mono's out of the sbd last time, but with all the different sbd's we also use, xlr's, rca's and sometimes a 1/4 inch stereo plug out of the headphone jacks, zappa, i'm surprised my tape didn't come out good, i listened thru my headphones and it sounded great???
sk
- Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 14:00:37 (EST)
Tony, you're lost and way late for the show!! ( bad humor )
Skeets
- Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 13:38:04 (EST)
Hello out there in Creek land. I am looking for the Bison Farm show in Hadley Ma this past summer and the 12 22 01 at Northern Lights. Can anyone help me?
Tony (roccosfruits@lycos.com)
pittsfield, Ma - Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 13:10:22 (EST)
But you're a high-grade BUZZ! :-)
a geek
- Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 12:57:50 (EST)
I hear ya John... I will see what I can find as far as spdif distribution goes. Note that with unbalanced signals, any noise generated by any decks, mixers, a/d's, computers, etc. can flow upstream and propegate across the other splitters to other decks & devices. I guess theoretically these noisy signals could infiltrate the board and cause problems there, but I tend to think the circuitry on most consoles would prevent that from happening. A buffered patch bay would prevent this from happening. So would a balanced connection.... So we have two "perfect" solutions... 1) A buffered distribution amplifier with balanced i/o (analog) or 2) A balanced connection to the board with a D/A or deck with balanced inputs PLUS a spdif distribution unit. I will do some research...
Shoey
- Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 12:56:27 (EST)
sorry john, i`ll try to contain myself next time
BUZZ
- Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 12:55:42 (EST)
Just got off the phone with Chris Duncane over at Rane. Discussed our the taping scenario... He made a suggestion that may improve our splitting potential. Most boards used balanced (e.g. xlr or 1/4" TRS) outputs. By plugging in a 1/4" mono jack (which I think is what we do most of the time- sk can you clarify this?) shorts the ring portion of the balanced signal to ground. This is ok, of course, and we DO get audio, but by creating an adapter from a 1/4" TRS plug where the ring is NOT CONNECTED to a mono 1/4" (or RCA) may very well allow the board to drive a "hotter" signal which in essence would support more splits. I will build a couple of these and we may want to try them out at an upcoming show. On some boards (unlikely but possible) we may not get signal at all, in which case we could just eleminate these adapters and go about it the way we've been doing it. Any opinions on this?
Shoey
- Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 12:14:28 (EST)
Shoey, my complaints about the last LR show are the low-grade buzz throughout and the crackles. I know the buzz was in the system as I heard in the room during the show. I understand the crackling is on the AUD recordings as well, so I doubt any of it is a splitter issue. However, I love the idea of having some kind of patchbay for us to use at Creek shows. Any idea what is available in the digital realm? A device that would take one digital in and provide several digital outs would help a good number of us......
john (jshep@eden.rutgers.edu)
- Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 12:12:27 (EST)
zappa, I'd tend to agree with funkyzen about that last LR show- I only heard 2nd set sbd, but sounded fine & even Rider was audible. I wonder if it was a splitter issue- seems like some folks got good feeds while others didn't. I think I counted at least 8 splitters so those tapers at the end had 4 splits. I would think that the sbd output could handle that, but it might be bordeline from the engineers I've talked to about it. I looked into buffered patch bays (audio distrubution amplifiers) a few weeks ago.... Unfortunately, they're mostly designed for professional broadcast applications and thus are costly and most use balanced xlr's for outputs. I spoke with Paul Plotnick at ProDigital and he's doing a little research for us. Markertek.com has a (in your best Pete Puma voice) whoooooooooole lotta stuff. The Ocean Matrix OMX-ADA6 looks pretty solid, and the Rane DA216 is a great unit, except it's got screw terminals for i/o (wtf???) What do you think? Could it have been a issue with splitters?
Shoey
- Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 11:15:12 (EST)
shn would be nice i suppose.. im going to galactic tomorrow.. and probably going exploring the rest of the weekend.. soulive on sunday.. dont know.. doesnt need to be now though, but thanks i appreciate it
pigpen
- Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 10:39:48 (EST)
no problem ppen.. what shows are you going to this weekend? i'm going to start doing the conversion this afternoon.. should be done with it by tomorrow. btw.. do you just want an shn copy? or audio? i can do it either way... peace :)
funkyzen
- Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 09:50:42 (EST)
hey funkAY- think i can get a copy? i wanna give it to my friend.. she made a sign that said Cities and put it up on stage... Id love to get her a copy of the show :) thanks..
pigpen
- Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 08:40:55 (EST)
the only thing i noticed about last week @ the room was a buzzzz when it gets quiet, no pops for me... i wouldn't put it in the came out like shit category though.. you can definitely hear all the music.. the mix was really nice.. you can actually hear rob.. bass is nice and loud too.. mark getting the effects going again. i'm pretty satisfied with how last weeks show sounds :) definitely danceable
funkyzen
- Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 08:30:06 (EST)
shoey I don't know which show your talking about but that last sbd LR show sounds like shit... Kinda like a big bowl of Rice crispys ( snap crackle PoP) Costa must of been freaking.... He usually gets there around Noon to start reparing their rig ..
zappa
- Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 07:37:28 (EST)
Thanks, Pickle! Missed ya last weekend... Hope to see you sometime soon! Thanks for the offer, SK, I will be in touch about that. TaperJones, I agree about that LR recording- overall the sbd sounds quite nice, and that venue isn't really the place for a matrix. I'm just excited to get something that sounds really phat- ya know? Maybe Pearl Street? Or maybe this spring... at the Globe! :) We'll make it happen- not to worry. "All good things in all good time"
Shoey
- Wednesday, January 30, 2002 at 00:35:32 (EST)
Rodney Holmes? Overplayed? Nahhh!! Someone get that guy a machine gun....
js
- Tuesday, January 29, 2002 at 18:03:28 (EST)
except for that damn drum, the sound was pretty nice and clean, which leaves me to conclude that the sound guy knew about it but there was nothing he could do about it
sk
- Tuesday, January 29, 2002 at 17:24:43 (EST)
I agree with fz: The bass drum was mixed **way** too high from the get go. It also didn't help (IMHO) that the drummer -- Rodney Holmes -- overplayed in spots.
JahWood
- Tuesday, January 29, 2002 at 11:56:48 (EST)
eh.. i think skb's soundman did a bad job.. did you hear that bass drum popping all night? i'm surprised he didn't blow a speaker.
funkyzen
- Tuesday, January 29, 2002 at 08:48:13 (EST)
you walked in just as it started.Of course so.
bfree
- Monday, January 28, 2002 at 19:53:53 (EST)
wasn`t i supost to be there ?
BUZZ
- Monday, January 28, 2002 at 19:48:01 (EST)
I think the buzz was supposed to be in that song.
Yellow Moon
- Monday, January 28, 2002 at 18:34:03 (EST)
And, man, dig that buzzing sound during Yellow Moon!!
does it go away?
- Monday, January 28, 2002 at 18:25:05 (EST)
"skojack"....that's a riot Jah!! :)
Skeets (Skeets37@aol.com)
- Monday, January 28, 2002 at 18:11:43 (EST)
skb's soundman knows how to make the same equipment sound better
js
- Monday, January 28, 2002 at 17:56:12 (EST)
I bet skb uses a better quality soundboard, skojak.
JahWood
- Monday, January 28, 2002 at 17:18:09 (EST)
so i taped dtb and skb sat night, and skb sounded much better, not sure why, same equipment?
sk
- Monday, January 28, 2002 at 16:28:24 (EST)
Happiest of Birthdays to ya Shoey!!!!
Pickle
- Monday, January 28, 2002 at 13:24:30 (EST)
rented soundboard = possible problems
!
- Monday, January 28, 2002 at 11:37:37 (EST)
Thanks, TJ. I was right up front then, and I don't remember hearing anything like that in the room........it sounds like the sound system was just completely breaking down......I didn't imagine it would also be on an aud tape....
john
- Monday, January 28, 2002 at 10:14:39 (EST)
Live every day like its your last day on earth
LifeIsAGiftSoCherishIt
- Monday, January 28, 2002 at 10:09:49 (EST)
...the rats in the cellar....
bfree
- Monday, January 28, 2002 at 09:34:44 (EST)
maybe the rats were singing
lurk
- Monday, January 28, 2002 at 03:57:57 (EST)
...hey john...its on mine too and i taped audience...
TaperJones
- Sunday, January 27, 2002 at 21:36:24 (EST)
Taper...You got Mail...
kbooth
Rochester, NY - Sunday, January 27, 2002 at 20:03:16 (EST)
although i left my tape of the 2nd set in my friend's cah the othah nite...
LSun
- Sunday, January 27, 2002 at 19:33:25 (EST)
hey shep... yeah, it's most notable durin' YLMDA...
LSun
- Sunday, January 27, 2002 at 19:31:43 (EST)
stiney, hi..just wondering if you sent out the package yet...see yas
dogpatch
- Sunday, January 27, 2002 at 18:57:42 (EST)
Hey Creekers,Have very nice copy of 10-10-97(dsbd>za2>.wav>cdwav>.shn)still on my HD. I'm looking for CDR trades but will offer a few B&P's if anyone's interested in getting this show. Check my list: www.geocities.com/traincry/CDR.html Peace!
Steve C (ShakedownST1@aol.com)
- Sunday, January 27, 2002 at 18:15:26 (EST)
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- Sunday, January 27, 2002 at 11:57:25 (EST)
sbd tapers from Fri night: There's some strange static sound on my tape in just a couple of places. It is most notable during YLMDA.........it's right after the "we make our choices" verse, when the drums kick in. That's about 1:28:30 into my tape, but I started rolling a good three minutes before they began playing. Anyway, I'm wondering if this came through the signal and is on everyone's recording, or if it is only me. I'd be really happy to hear from anyone who recorded from the sbd as to whether you have this same noise. Thanks!
John (jshep@eden.rutgers.edu)
Somerset, NJ - Sunday, January 27, 2002 at 11:15:33 (EST)
...hey shoey...i think the tape came out good too...as for the room itsef...matrix or soundboard is the way to go there ...tho i would of loved to of tried a set a mics up on that beam that was a little farther back...tho i believe it probably might be tooo far back...
TaperJones
- Sunday, January 27, 2002 at 09:59:34 (EST)
hey skeets, thanks for the discs! Let me know how yours sound... hi tapers!~ sunshine and smiles,
stiney
- Saturday, January 26, 2002 at 16:12:05 (EST)
shoey, your always welcome to my dat from last night
sk
- Saturday, January 26, 2002 at 15:45:09 (EST)
Hi all. I'd love to get a "virgin" copy of last night's incredible show. I can trade cd's of the shows on my website, or a copy of the finished product and/or labels for same. Or pics. Can give you credit on the website for the taping. I'm easy (sometimes). Thanks.
Ed (ehall@mac.com)
- Saturday, January 26, 2002 at 13:45:09 (EST)
Thanks to John, TJ, Ron, and all who helped last night! You guys rock! The aud recording came out very good - not excellent, but still very good. What did you think TJ? I wonder if reflections off that wooden post played a part.... And next time I'll use cards instead of hypercards. But it should provide some juicy meat for a pp matrix. John & I are gonna do up 2nd set this afternoon. We lost the 1st set sbd recording (^&%$ computers!) Would anyone be willing to loan a dat or clone of 1st set?
Shoey (mheydman@hotmail.com)
Duct Tape, CT - Saturday, January 26, 2002 at 12:51:05 (EST)
Howdy all tapers, are there any of you that feel the urge to splurge and share your wealth soon, I would love a copy of last nights show(1-25-02) at da room, it appears I missed one I absolutely didn't want to miss.(UGHHH!!!!) I have a small list to offer in trade, sorry my dial up is to slow for SHN, :(. THANKS for spreading the Bliss, hope to hear from someone. :) Creek on!!!
Chris (creekfreek101@aol.com)
LooseChangeVille, RI - Saturday, January 26, 2002 at 12:45:35 (EST)
WFC?
?
- Saturday, January 26, 2002 at 10:09:38 (EST)
What's the Taper part have to do with it?
ep
- Saturday, January 26, 2002 at 05:27:39 (EST)
Stiney, did you have a chance to burn that Oxford disc yet...I was gonna make you Saratoga 85'...one of my faves!!
Skeets (Skeets37@aol.com)
- Friday, January 25, 2002 at 19:38:56 (EST)
*~happy birthday tjones!~* sunshine and smiles,
stiney
- Friday, January 25, 2002 at 18:08:52 (EST)
Happy Birthdaty TJ!!!.....let's all have one big "YESSSSSS!!" in TJ's honor!!
Skeets
- Friday, January 25, 2002 at 16:42:29 (EST)
tj happy birthday
dogpatch
- Friday, January 25, 2002 at 15:30:02 (EST)
happy birthday Taper Jones! Peace (Tony H)
thingfish
- Friday, January 25, 2002 at 14:10:59 (EST)
Happy Birthday TaperJones
Carl
- Friday, January 25, 2002 at 10:58:42 (EST)
Frosty The Snowman sez: HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MISTAH JONES!!:-)
JahWood
- Friday, January 25, 2002 at 09:58:24 (EST)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TAPER JONES! We all wish you could be here with us to celebrate your day.
marla (gratefulbedandbreakfast.com)
Luquillo, - Friday, January 25, 2002 at 03:16:46 (EST)
First things first,glad Dad's ddoing well. I may take over this project with C and your direction.
ep
- Friday, January 25, 2002 at 02:45:25 (EST)
...it looks like my dads surgery went well and he's doing fine...i now will be able to focused on my last project..hey ep...i have talked with carl and we will be going full steam on getting this complete...
TaperJones
- Thursday, January 24, 2002 at 21:10:52 (EST)
hey scotty, i'll put those in the mail asap.... peace!!
stiney
- Thursday, January 24, 2002 at 18:23:06 (EST)
Anybody got the last Room show 12/21/01 on disc yet??...would love a copy and got plenty of goodies to trADE....THX!!
Skeets (Skeets37@aol.com)
- Thursday, January 24, 2002 at 13:59:41 (EST)
I may have to miss fridays show, so I hope someone can dub a tape for me, I think I better stay home and practice getting my whole fist down my throat for the upcomming Miss Howard Stern contest.
sk
- Thursday, January 24, 2002 at 11:22:27 (EST)
looking for max creek 5\8/8 11/7/98 10/31/98 12/31/98 looking to trade email me if your up for one peace
trey (scully4174@aol.com)
- Thursday, January 24, 2002 at 09:02:16 (EST)
hey stiney...nah gonna skip da room friday..most likely i'll regret it and hear what a killer show it was..but hey whadda ya gonna do??? sooooo....whatevah works best for ya....see ya soon.. :0)
scotty
- Wednesday, January 23, 2002 at 19:55:15 (EST)
ahh, hey scotty!! are you going to the room on fri? I was cleaning my room and i STILL Have your cd's, i'm real sorry!!! if you're going on fri, i'll bring them with me, if not i'll put them out in the mail Sat. morning!! i apologize, things have been hectic lately!! :O sunshine and smiles,
stiney
D'oh!!!!!!!!, - Wednesday, January 23, 2002 at 18:22:52 (EST)
heya sweet..ain't seen ya in abit....hallo...vibes?
scotty (Scamc@aol. om)
- Wednesday, January 23, 2002 at 16:46:51 (EST)
ill ask the developers and see if i can get an answer.. that is pretty phishy..
pigpen
- Wednesday, January 23, 2002 at 16:42:38 (EST)
http://www.hageltech.com/dumeter .... for anyone interested. But like I said, what was uploading FROM my computer at a good 25 KB/s for like 30 seconds even though I wasn't sharing anything yet OR downloading?
Joe
- Wednesday, January 23, 2002 at 16:38:57 (EST)
Ack! That was a lousy choice of words...I meant, "I was aware of the majority of that." Sorry and thanks for posting the info for everyone, fz.
JahWood
- Wednesday, January 23, 2002 at 13:14:44 (EST)
I'm aware of that, fz, and also think that also causes my bandwidth to get slammed.
JahWood
- Wednesday, January 23, 2002 at 13:13:53 (EST)
jah.. a couple of things to consider about furthurnet and security.. when you download a show, it lets you download from multiple hosts if they both have the same show.. so that might be where a couple of addresses you don't recognize are. also, it lets people "piggyback" off of your downloads.. which means when you download the packets can also be re-routed to another host so they get the show too and put less of a load on the person's computer who you are getting the show from... so more addresses you don't recognize might be people that are trying to download the same show you are that are piggybacking off of you.
funkyzen
- Wednesday, January 23, 2002 at 12:44:53 (EST)
HEY BUDDYGUY, COME OVER AND JAM THIS!
sweet (jonnyray3@juno.com)
Ellington, CT - Wednesday, January 23, 2002 at 11:42:10 (EST)
Hey, Joe, where did you find that DU meter program? I'd like to check it out. Thank you in advance.
JahWood
- Wednesday, January 23, 2002 at 10:41:53 (EST)
I need to make one correction, Joe: I can "see" who is accessing files, but I don't *know* who those people are. Also, I'm picky like stretchy as well -- for example, I won't accept any GD from Summer/Fall '89 on that has any cassette or analog lineage. I also loathe cassette sources with lots of wow-and-flutter or hiss as well.
JahWood
- Wednesday, January 23, 2002 at 10:37:14 (EST)
tans, i'm ultraparanoid...prob. even more so than jahwood...sounds like a good idea tho...at the moment i don't know how to get anyone past my linksys router...not that i was ever that fast with adsl...and i'm real real real picky about the music, pass up what most would consider good...
stretch
- Tuesday, January 22, 2002 at 22:19:26 (EST)
no, I can appreciate your concerns. I have noticed if you take a netstat while connected you're hooked up to ALL sorts of addresses. I also have a DU meter (real cool program) and I've noticed some real strange uploads/downloads for small periods of time, even when I wasn't sharing or downloading. I have gotten some good Creek shns though! Some more research is necessary... Peace
Joe
- Tuesday, January 22, 2002 at 21:58:37 (EST)
Hi, Joe! My concerns are with PCP (the protocol used for file-sharing systems). I *don't* know who is accessing the files I have, and I really have no way of knowing. And vice-versa: What if one of the files I download contains a virus? It's not beyond feasibility, as you'd be surprised what can get infected (as I did lots of virus cleanups at my workplace late last year). The other thing is that I've noticed my bandwidth gets quite hogged at times. However, my concerns have been unfounded this far, and there's a good chance I'm being overconservative here.
JahWood
- Tuesday, January 22, 2002 at 21:12:03 (EST)
hey Jah, what are your security concerns with further? Anything we should be worried about?
Joe
- Tuesday, January 22, 2002 at 20:25:39 (EST)
C & TJ, I may have the time to take on this project. I'm no dummy and have the basics. Help me tune it up over the weekend if you have the time. Keep smiling,,,,,,
ep
- Tuesday, January 22, 2002 at 20:16:00 (EST)
hey magicmike, could you kindly copy & paste your music list into an email so i can check it out? i couldn't get that attachment you sent me to open properly... yahoo puked every time i tried... thanks!! hey pigpen... in case you don't see my post on the main forum, you are more than welcome to crash at our place, just let me know what's up... sunshine and smiles,
stiney
- Tuesday, January 22, 2002 at 18:06:55 (EST)
hey guys furthurnet has some BBs where you can post all this stuff and the developers will read it... checkout http://forums.cyberial.com
pigpen
- Tuesday, January 22, 2002 at 16:36:10 (EST)
I've actually had some issues with furthurnet, and have had numerous online friends bag it. One problem is that because it is java-heavy, it hogs your memory and other resources. For example, I've had my PC clock slow down to the point it would be at least 10 minutes *behind* normal time. My other beef is that I'd like to see the .txt file downloaded first along with one track, so I can test to see if I want that given show or not. Plus, I have some issues with security as well. However, my beefs are very minor compared to my online friends, and if anything, I've been using it most when I either (a) head to work or (b) turn in for the night. Otherwise, when I get home, I shut down furthurnet so I can do other functions properly.
JahWood
- Tuesday, January 22, 2002 at 16:22:24 (EST)
damn don't you boys know anything, its not the size that matters its the motion~~
woooman
- Tuesday, January 22, 2002 at 10:06:37 (EST)
...and the sources are tough to find, downloaded a Dead show from '69 only to find out it sounded like crap....
Tans
- Tuesday, January 22, 2002 at 07:46:27 (EST)
furthurnet.com has some slow moments, but i 've had connections i n the 200kbs yes 2 hundred and some even in the three's. I have had some as low as 20kbs but thats still better than some ftp servers. Just off that site, i've gotten phil nye, leftovrsalmon halloween, derek trucks, both vida blue(feel bad for people who paid 70 bucks) some robert walters, jazz mandolin. all in a week. The only complaint i have, sorry two, is when pickin a band on their list, then having no shows returned. My other complaint is that the shows get disconected, but they restart on their own. ANy tips or such are welcome, or find a better site and let us all know. I like furthurnet better than shnapster
magicmike
- Tuesday, January 22, 2002 at 01:41:42 (EST)
The women can't get enough of my 2-incher.
sk
- Tuesday, January 22, 2002 at 00:29:45 (EST)
furthur.net has some good stuff, but way too slow
************
- Monday, January 21, 2002 at 21:16:36 (EST)
tj, i wuv u.
sk
- Monday, January 21, 2002 at 18:10:17 (EST)
I have some BUZZ & His Checkered Past's CD's for trade if anyone is interested.......including the rare Royal Albert Halle gig
Pirate Taper
- Monday, January 21, 2002 at 16:43:19 (EST)
taperjones, why don't you ever call me? i wanna here about the mics!!!
sk
- Monday, January 21, 2002 at 15:05:36 (EST)
Yessssss taperjones its time for the sound. Lets jamm dude studios all done, call me!
Buddyguy
vernon, ct - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 13:04:23 (EST)
Yessssss taperjones its time for the sound. Lets jamm dude studios all done, call me!
Buddyguy
vernon, ct - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 13:02:24 (EST)
Zippy we finally met, you look nothing like me, I am the real Zippy hear me roar mmmmeeeeeeoooowwwwww now kindly stop using my name!!!
ZippyThePinheadedCat
Purrville, Cat - Monday, January 21, 2002 at 12:33:45 (EST)
lots of creek also including camp 2001
zippy
- Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 22:27:42 (EST)
lots of neil to D/L at http://www.furthurnet.com/
zippy the pinhead
- Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 22:14:10 (EST)
Dogpatch, try my other email below email below, nothings come thru yet
Rich (wisconsinrich@yahoo.com)
- Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 21:51:51 (EST)
rich, youve got mail.......hopefully...lol
dogpatch
- Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 20:49:41 (EST)
...everything is allllllll set...did a few test runs yesterday...the real test will be on friday...yessssssssssss...off to the diner...
TaperJones
- Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 08:44:32 (EST)
Hey dogpatch, my email keps bouncing back to me, your server doesn't like how my ISP's servers are configured. Anyway, either way is fine with me, but the blanks I sent are't fresh. They were recorded on once and erased before I sent them.
Rich (rlambert@tds.net)
- Saturday, January 19, 2002 at 23:43:40 (EST)
phil lesh & friends @ gathering of the vibes ilcc
dogpatch
- Saturday, January 19, 2002 at 12:13:22 (EST)
...well everyone...the beyer m88's came today...cant wait to try them out next weekend...just need to upgrade the mic stand a bit...hey debra...are you going to camp this year...
TaperJonesb
- Friday, January 18, 2002 at 22:49:04 (EST)
I feel so strongly about dr.juice, I will pay each and every person 10 bucks that comes up and kicks me square in the ass tonight.
sk
- Friday, January 18, 2002 at 21:42:43 (EST)
Thanks for the info Shoey!!
kbooth
- Friday, January 18, 2002 at 20:00:51 (EST)
hope to see some of you tonite at dr. juice, and if you've never been, that's okay, they want some of you fresh-squeezed people to come out too!
sk
- Friday, January 18, 2002 at 17:12:34 (EST)
Matt, I would assume that the several times I have received a patch from a D8 that was in a chain and getting a feed from some other deck supports the idea that they had s/pdif in and out simultaneously. I know my da-r100 does, but it don't need no stinkin' 7-pin!!
js
- Friday, January 18, 2002 at 15:26:38 (EST)
kbooth- it all depends on what you want to do. Using the 7pin plug on a D8 you can get spdif in, spdif out, or both- but I don't think you can use both spdif in and spdif out simultaneously (can anyone clarify this?). Note that the D8's 7pin port does not really comply with the standard spdif specs, but seems to work nontheless. The XLR cables are used for AES/EBU digital transfer, and this is a different protocol than spdif. You don't see this too often on portable decks- most offer a coax (spdif) instead. If you have the option of patching into other decks frequently, I'd suggest the spdif input option, but if you want to dub to another deck or offer someone else a digi patch, you're gonna need the spdif output. I know Sony makes a cable where you can switch between the two- dunno if Core Sounds makes a similar one. Hope this helps...
Shoey
- Friday, January 18, 2002 at 13:59:56 (EST)
your welcome skeets
zippy
- Friday, January 18, 2002 at 12:26:59 (EST)
TAPER JONES :) Hello out there, I was just browsing the show lists from way back '77, '78, '79. You know, Carrie nations, Great American, Mad Murphy's, Inn Place...WOW! Whhat a great TRIP (down memory lane) I also went back and read some of the "Creek Leaks" Funny stuff and the sad part is that I remember those very newsletters, Damn am I old! Take care Hope to see you a show real soon! Debra
Debra
Maplewood , NJ - Friday, January 18, 2002 at 11:55:50 (EST)
go with dvd...
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- Friday, January 18, 2002 at 10:30:29 (EST)
"Plextor Europe has released a burner that is (theoretically, for all you CLV gurus) ten times faster than that -- 40x! The drive has a 4MB buffer and BURN-Proof technology to minimize coasters, and it ships with Nero and PlexTools. No word yet on important questions like when these racers will be available in the States, the price (although CDR-Info says the suggested price is 219 Euros, which is just under $200 US), and which discs will burn at that speed. Perhaps a more important question, though, is whether we should keep buying the faster CD burners, or should we step back speed-wise and trade up for more storage with a DVD burner"
JahWood
- Friday, January 18, 2002 at 10:10:37 (EST)
check this out.. an external sound interface that connects through a usb port.. 24 bit recording @ 96khz. optical ins/outs, SPDIF in/out.. analog/digital conversion looks like soon you'll be able to just bring a laptop to shows and record right on that :) http://www.soundblaster.com/products/extigy/
funkyzen
- Friday, January 18, 2002 at 09:48:56 (EST)
nice mm! glad you dig it.. i saw your name up there the other day and was psyched you decided to help out... furthur has a lot of advantages over simple ftp sharing and serving and is helping a lot of low end users get a lot of great music.. we're all sharin in the groove... check the chat sometimes i chill in there often durin the week..
pigpen
- Friday, January 18, 2002 at 08:09:36 (EST)
thx Stiney....I'll burn somethin' back at ya....I'll be at the Room..Thx, Skeets
Skeets
- Friday, January 18, 2002 at 07:44:49 (EST)
harumph.
taper gremlin
flip it, - Thursday, January 17, 2002 at 20:13:08 (EST)
glad somneone psoted about www.furternet.com the site is really great for shorten. getting some killer shows off it now. enjoy the tunes
magicmike
- Thursday, January 17, 2002 at 19:36:44 (EST)
hey skeets... in case you didn't see my post on the other side... I'll spin out a copy of 7/3/88 for ya, are you going to the room next week? if not i'll hold onto em for you... sunshine and smiles,
stiney
- Thursday, January 17, 2002 at 18:52:38 (EST)
I`m so upset, I just found out Pink was on Saturday Night Live last week. If I knew that ahead of time, I never would of left my house last weekend.
sk
I`m steppin out, - Thursday, January 17, 2002 at 17:57:12 (EST)
taperjones, i tried calling you last night but the phone number has been changed and the new number is unlisted, you'll do anything to avoid those trumped up paternity lawsuits, but this is me dude, your favorite taper!
sk
- Thursday, January 17, 2002 at 16:47:43 (EST)
Well, I have decided to invest in some 7-pin digital cables for my D8. The problem is I do not know which ones I need. I get a lot of stuff from core sound and they have some very good deals on 7 pin cables for Sony DAT's. All you 7 pin users out there, which ones do I need, there are 7-Pin-To-Coax Cable, Coax-To-7-Pin Cable, 7-Pin Combi Cable, 7-Pin-Coax-I/O Cable, TCD-Cable, 7-Pin-to-XLR Cable, and the XLR-to-7-Pin cable. Which ones do I need? Please email me with some advice, trying to get off the analog train.
kbooth (kbooth@rochester.rr.com)
Rochester, NY - Thursday, January 17, 2002 at 15:28:56 (EST)
Hi...thanks "Zippy" for the OysterFest show from 91' I got in the mail today.....Skeets
Skeets
- Thursday, January 17, 2002 at 14:36:39 (EST)
www.furthurnet.com - it works on PCP technology :oP
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- Thursday, January 17, 2002 at 14:24:30 (EST)
thank you
sk
- Thursday, January 17, 2002 at 14:04:18 (EST)
sk, the date was 011005
hel-lo
- Thursday, January 17, 2002 at 13:46:38 (EST)
10-5-01
humph
- Thursday, January 17, 2002 at 12:24:32 (EST)
just give me the date of the show and don't make me go looking for it please
sk
- Thursday, January 17, 2002 at 12:01:27 (EST)
http://max.creek.com/mc011005.html
here it is sk
- Thursday, January 17, 2002 at 11:57:29 (EST)
what was the date of that living room show where they did that outstanding the eleven jam, i wanna go back and listen to that show!
sk
- Thursday, January 17, 2002 at 11:34:23 (EST)
Write fewer comments!
whole future condemned
- Thursday, January 17, 2002 at 10:01:49 (EST)
WFC!!
you might but i don't
- Thursday, January 17, 2002 at 09:21:39 (EST)
More nonsense the better. Everyone flip,,,,,,
ep
- Thursday, January 17, 2002 at 01:30:48 (EST)
talk taping shit.
taper gremlin eater
- Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 23:25:07 (EST)
c'mon people...what the fuck is this all about? are we gonna talk the incessant and infinitessimal details taping shit...or are we gonna get a life!
taper gremlin
- Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 19:33:04 (EST)
women's furry cunts
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- Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 19:32:43 (EST)
ground control: i've got two different colored eyes!!! help me....
wizlit
as he spiked his hair, - Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 19:31:52 (EST)
ground control!!!!!
major tom
- Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 19:24:32 (EST)
Which Fucking Control??
nye taper
- Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 19:16:14 (EST)
Wild Flowing Creek
.
- Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 19:01:35 (EST)
Wild for cocopuffs!
Cap'n Crunch
- Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 18:59:45 (EST)
women for cannabis?... where do i dign up? ;)
stiney
- Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 18:44:11 (EST)
Women for Cannabis...
LSun
- Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 18:11:08 (EST)
Wicita Falls Cansas
Me
- Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 17:28:13 (EST)
That's one of my favorite numbers!!
Bobby
- Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 17:01:56 (EST)
WORLD FAMOUS CATHARSIS
Carmella
- Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 17:00:42 (EST)
Why Fu&$ing Corinna!
Jerry Rolling Over In
My Grave, - Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 16:00:03 (EST)
wonder-full funky cookies ;)
wfc
- Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 15:37:46 (EST)
And to think I always thought it was an encoded song request: Windows For Chris
wfc
- Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 14:10:13 (EST)
Really??? Who F*&king Cares??
Pickle
- Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 13:18:19 (EST)
wfc means we're from connecticut
Stealth Poster
- Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 13:01:35 (EST)
smiles&gdtrfb: try gnutella for your ol' blues eyes fix.
js
- Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 09:59:41 (EST)
wfc?
who gives a
- Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 08:50:19 (EST)
that would be wfc
?
- Tuesday, January 15, 2002 at 23:40:11 (EST)
are the tapes jones dolls still avalible? i have a mice problem in me basement
who gives a
- Tuesday, January 15, 2002 at 18:30:48 (EST)
i got that show tans.... and etrade is easy, just sign up and anyone can post to the list... you need to run an ftp server usually but you could be able to set something up where you upload a show to their site in trade to d/l something from them... i dont use it,its all free for me!! :)
pigpen
- Tuesday, January 15, 2002 at 14:40:29 (EST)
I remember seeing a few sinatra shows on an etree server a while back, maybe you could try that etrade thing they have, not to sure how that works, pigpen knows...while I'm at it, I'm looking to trade for .shn's of 1-28-00 from the Higher Ground w/ Mike Gordon, anybody down? Or anybody know where I can download it? My tapes have had it...peace
Tans (mtansley@mail.com)
- Tuesday, January 15, 2002 at 14:07:13 (EST)
actually i'm lookin' for shn's but i'll take just about anything now thanks for the info!!
smiles
- Tuesday, January 15, 2002 at 12:49:40 (EST)
Hiya smiles! The web may not be the best place to look for Sinatra stuff (you looking for mp3's?) You might want to try Morpheus (www.musiccity.com) or a similar file-sharing app that'll search out files across a network of users sharing the files. Hope this helps- good luck!
Shoey
- Tuesday, January 15, 2002 at 12:32:05 (EST)
bfree, that's great info- thx for the link and enlightenment on the 24 bit issue. In regard to one of your email question about matrixes, the biggest problem is synchronization between the two signals. Remeber Jun? He used to record using a li'l Mackie workhorse mixer and the matrixes sounded good, but sometimes there was a phase issue and in the worse case scenario there was an audible delay between the sbd and aud signals- most prevalent on drums & percussion. Let's talk more about this....
Shoey
- Tuesday, January 15, 2002 at 12:30:24 (EST)
anyone out here ever have any luck getting onto a frank sinatra site?? yes i'm serious i wanted to download some for my pappy but we've had no luck its constantly busy..thanks
smilesalot (debbiean@remedystaff.com)
- Tuesday, January 15, 2002 at 11:04:03 (EST)
oh go save yourself!
:)
- Tuesday, January 15, 2002 at 10:12:30 (EST)
Oh My, who is this Bfree character?
Stabbing Westward
- Tuesday, January 15, 2002 at 09:26:15 (EST)
Note that after the 'hurray'...is a quotation,and not of my origin.Check out the website!Peace.
bfree
- Monday, January 14, 2002 at 20:00:10 (EST)
I think this post was worth the bandwidth,this being the 'Tapers Section'.Imagine,no more clipping!! Hurray!!! The overriding concept here is called dynamic range, and is measured in dB. The dynamic range of a recording is the difference between its loudest point and its quietest point. To elaborate further, each bit gives us the ability to represent about 6dB of dynamic range. A passage that is 6dB louder than another passage is said to be twice as loud as the other passage. In the 4-bit example, we theoretically have 24dB of dynamic range that can be used. But what if recording doesn’t take advantage of all that dynamic range? What if the recording never peaks beyond 6dB of its maximum possible limit? In this case, the recording would only take advantage of 3 of what we call the least significant (or left-most) bits, meaning 18dB of dynamic range. 16-bit recordings are capable of a theoretical maximum limit of 96dB of dynamic range. This means that a single wave could have up to 65536 discrete values that can be used to represent it. But if the same wave recorded at 16-bit peaks at 48dB below its maximum possible limit, then there would only be 256 discrete values that can be used to represent it, taking advantage of only 8 of the least significant bits. The 8 most significant bits would contain no information whatsoever, and would remain unused. In the case of 24-bit recording, you’d have a maximum of 16,777,216 values to choose from, and in the case of a wave peaking at 48dB below its maximum possible limit, the wave would still have 65536 possible discrete amplitude values that could be used to represent it. Now here’s the kicker in the 16-bit realm. While the volume level of a recorded low-E note struck on an acoustic guitar might take advantage all 16 available bits (for instance, where the peak on the DAT deck reaches 0dB), the squeak of the fingers on the string, the scratch of the pick hitting the string, and the 5 or 10 audible harmonic overtones of that note may never reach a point beyond 48dB shy of the 96dB maximum. Yes, all of these additional by-products of that low-E string that make the guitar sound alive and compelling receive all of the fidelity of that scratchy, distorted, computerized sound of that 8-bit sample from long ago. And as the basic low-E note fades out, it too gets the same butcher treatment from the ever decreasing number of discrete amplitude values. Yikes! Now record with a 24-bit word length, and put the CD quality back into those string squeaks, pick scratches, and overtones. With 24 bits, you can hear the clarity of the cymbals decaying as they keep ringing smoothly down to complete silence. The little low-level smack of the bass pedal head hitting the bass drum skin that sounded barely like a small click before (if audible at all) now sounds like a smack, complete with its own smoothly reverberating decay. Even the low-level acoustical reflection from the wall behind the band now contributes to the experience with added detail and a sense of ambience, not simply low-level distortion. Finally, because of this improvement, no more does the recordist have to risk overloading and clipping the recording in effort to achieve maximum fidelity. Levels can be set conservatively with the assurance that a high degree of fidelity is maintained.
bfree
- Monday, January 14, 2002 at 19:54:37 (EST)
http://www.24bitfaq.org/ ....this is the shiat...this guy has been doing live 24 bit recording with SCI,Kimock,Phil,and others...this link breaks down the advantages of 24 bit field recording...happy reading!
bfree
- Monday, January 14, 2002 at 19:26:22 (EST)
I'm not a Dat taper,but my Sony Cam is 16 bit stereo.
bfree
- Monday, January 14, 2002 at 18:40:51 (EST)
Hey shoey,what's up? Nah,my post was not pertaining to a 24bit Creek show...I have not come across one yet,anyways.I was referrring to studio recordings....now that I have looked to my source of thinking,I find that I was talking out my ass.It seems that the technology I was thinking of was still 16 bit,but a refined,'true' 16 bit.And that was in contrast to inferior A/D conversion(the GAIN System).So I stand corrected on the 24 bit issue.I definitely would like to get in on some experiments...
bfree
- Monday, January 14, 2002 at 17:54:57 (EST)
Can anyone do a trade for me? I need the x-mas party on CDR.....I have plenty to trade. Just e-mail me....I didn't record that night.....THANK YOU!
Bobby T (creekhead2000@yahoo.com)
- Monday, January 14, 2002 at 17:50:57 (EST)
wotcha wizit i could wright seomthing moer beteter but then if you coudlt read it then we would have oursleves a nice little torubole wuohlnt we now!?
who gives a
- Monday, January 14, 2002 at 17:09:04 (EST)
Yes, eventhough I had a barricade it was a battle holding that spot in the middle of Waterstreet Music hall, but it paid off. My deck was plastic bagged in a sea of trickling floor beer, my mics were three feet above the slobbering frothing mouths of my neighbors, and my heart was in the right place. For if there were any board problems....I will gladly supply copies for tapers who were wronged.
AudonlyValchy (Valchy@aol.com)
- Monday, January 14, 2002 at 13:02:53 (EST)
"who gives a" -- learn to write your language and i might be able to read your post!
wizlit
huked on ebonics....werked fer mee, - Monday, January 14, 2002 at 10:58:21 (EST)
those mics belonged to that tireless workhorse of a taper, the esteemed valchy
sk
- Monday, January 14, 2002 at 10:30:15 (EST)
Hey- sorry to carry on even more & be so long in the tooth... But in regard to the matrix issue, I think they make for the best recordings. There's a certain sizzle of energy that often gets lost in a board recording. And of course for obvious reasons a board mix does not always mean an accurate (i.e. balanced) mix. OTOH, even with super mics and good placement, a nice aud recording that captures the warmth of a room sometimes lacks good clarity. Mixing the two signals together live can be problematic cuz of the delay in signal of the PA reaching the mics versus the board feed. This can be remedied using multitracking software (there's a ton of good stuff out there) and making the appropriate adjustments. If anyone wants to experiment, I'll be making some aud Creek recordings coming up, and if ya wanna trade a sbd dat (44.1) maybe we could try mixing down some after-the-moment matrixes... See ya's soon!
Shoey (again) (justmycoupla@cents.com)
- Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:19:24 (EST)
Hi ya'll... it's been a while :) Just perusing back a while through these posts and came across bfree mentioning something about a 24bit recording sounding "fuller" (versus 16bit). Was that a live Creek recording you were speaking of? I honestly didn't think that there would be a dramatic difference between the two when recording something like live Creek (e.g. dynamic mics for vocals, heavily compressed drums and lower levels of bass reinforcement) but would love to hear & understand more on this! Also must mention Oktava mics as an option for those looking- The MC012's are very affordably priced and sound very, very good. A factory-matched stereo pair comes with 3 caps (omni, card, hypercard). If you poke around web & usenet and search for reviews you'll find very few negative opinions. As far as bang for the buck goes, IMHO they're hard to beat.
Shoey
- Monday, January 14, 2002 at 02:07:56 (EST)
...hey kris...you've got mail...hey zappa...this things NICE...cant wait...
TaperJones
- Sunday, January 13, 2002 at 22:58:36 (EST)
Sk,do you know who had the mics in the middle of the room?
bfree
- Sunday, January 13, 2002 at 20:24:02 (EST)
im sorry nitiwdget. manuel, manual they both start with m's so whys the latest signin the buket?
who gives a
- Sunday, January 13, 2002 at 19:50:57 (EST)
"who gives a" can't spell...manuel isn't a manual! and he must be of anglo descent, the poor bastard.
wizlit
throwing stones..., - Sunday, January 13, 2002 at 18:51:42 (EST)
yes, the tapes came out nicely, we used a single stereo xlr matrix out of the sbd which had separate left and right controls and a master level switch
sk
- Sunday, January 13, 2002 at 18:40:15 (EST)
Taper, shows came out great. Do you want CD's or are you cruising for DAT clones?
kbooth (kbooth@rochester.rr.com)
Rochester, NY - Sunday, January 13, 2002 at 13:55:17 (EST)
Ed (or anyone else) here is a web page http://www.tiac.net/users/mgasman/index.html I found that has all sorts of manuals. I don't know the cost or what the deal is but it's a start if you don't have a manual.
zappa
- Sunday, January 13, 2002 at 11:48:43 (EST)
Ed, whichever switch is in the middle would probably be type II/high bias...thats what you want for maxellXLII's
analog at heart (a little hiss is ok)
- Sunday, January 13, 2002 at 11:43:10 (EST)
Good morning, tapers. I have a question that's been bugging me, and I just realized that you folks probably know the answer. I have a Nakamichi BX-1 cassette deck. It has an Eq switch, that I know about, but it also has a "tape selector" switch. It's choices are EX, SX, and ZX. What do they mean, and into which category do Maxell XL II's fall into?
Ed (ehall@mac.com)
- Sunday, January 13, 2002 at 10:59:01 (EST)
Who is manuel?
Hmm?
- Sunday, January 13, 2002 at 09:06:34 (EST)
Taper: nice unit , Looks like we have all the bases covered now.We just have to make sure we don't get too Fu*&ed up and turn the right nobs.
zappa
- Sunday, January 13, 2002 at 08:57:21 (EST)
...and it seems everytime we do a matrix mix we are always talking about how great it came out...let alone we need to have that (aud) back-up just in case there is ever trouble with the SB send...just fade it out and bring up the mics...and the patchbay section would be able to feed everyone else...instead of everyone "chaining" out of everyone...
TaperJones
- Sunday, January 13, 2002 at 08:34:18 (EST)
....hey zappa...you gotta see this thing...comes with a patchbay and allllll...
http://mackie.com/Products/VLZ_PRO_Series/1202VLZPRO.asp

TaperJones
- Sunday, January 13, 2002 at 08:21:51 (EST)
I guess that shows you're progressive and anxious to share and enjoy with your friends.
ep
- Saturday, January 12, 2002 at 23:24:22 (EST)
bunch of blithering anti-clockwise cack-handing sods, you wouldnt know analog from DAT if i handed you a manuel, you arse-licking cretins!
who gives a
- Saturday, January 12, 2002 at 21:21:46 (EST)
Taper is the proud new daddy of a 6 lb 8 oz Mackie 1202-VLZ PRO. It's beautiful!
uj
- Saturday, January 12, 2002 at 18:25:21 (EST)
Taper what kind of mixer ??
zappa
- Saturday, January 12, 2002 at 15:34:04 (EST)
...looks like i have a pair of beyers m88's on the way...also picked up a real nice mixer for possible future matrix mixes...
TaperJones
- Saturday, January 12, 2002 at 13:51:41 (EST)
...yessssssssssss...
TaperJones
- Saturday, January 12, 2002 at 13:47:26 (EST)
Taper...am I going this weekend? Does the sun rise in the east? :)
kbooth
- Friday, January 11, 2002 at 19:31:35 (EST)
2 nights of Creek bliss kickin off tonight. Can't wait!!!! Taping both shows, see you tapers at Water Street, HELL YEA!!!!
kbooth (kbooth@rochester.rr.com)
Rochester, NY - Friday, January 11, 2002 at 19:24:27 (EST)
hey sarah....your addy is a no go...drop me a email and see if it goes through...misses and kisses...
scotty
- Friday, January 11, 2002 at 17:37:09 (EST)
still looking for dogpatch. want to nail his head to the floor.
massed
- Friday, January 11, 2002 at 11:20:15 (EST)
I'm a farily new Creek fan, and was hoping to find someone here that might have these shows: 2/23/01 and 2/24/01. They're the only Max Creek shows I've seen, and would love to find CD-R's of them. I'd be willing to trade or B&P. For the former, my list is at db.etree.org/sunwasblue. For the latter and the former, my email is sunwasblue@hotmail.com. Either show would be very nice, both would be spectacular. Thanks.
Wayne Longman (sunwasblue@hotmail.com)
Chi-town, IL - Friday, January 11, 2002 at 09:57:36 (EST)
Scotty, email me punk cause ya sure didn't make it to see me before I left. snootchies...Sarah.
Liquidblue (redispretty@hotmail)
- Friday, January 11, 2002 at 03:31:15 (EST)
ok here my technical question: ive got a MPEG-RF35.7 burner installed in the CD-Rom department of my DTO tape carrier. what i was wondering was if i could convert that to analog measuring cappilary by using the MPEG-RF7.8 new edition capping closure, and if it can be activated by the closing section of my personal device file. also, if my DAT recorder was left out in the rain then baked in the sun like i did the other nite, would it still be opperative in a souther third world country if they had a near-AD7 outlet converter? please let me know, as my faction divistion sypewriting crew is waiting on me
dogpatch
- Thursday, January 10, 2002 at 20:11:40 (EST)
not a mystery to Stiney what my real identity is!!!...:)
Mr Analog
- Thursday, January 10, 2002 at 19:52:41 (EST)
hey rich... i've got it on analog, i'll check how many tapes... lemme know if you're interested... peace,
analog girl ;) (fire_faerey@yahoo.com)
- Thursday, January 10, 2002 at 19:13:36 (EST)
hey Scotty... are you going to the ROOM next week? I've had your cd's done for a while, but with my 2 weeks as the jobless wonder, i have no postage... I can bring em to the room if you're going, or i can mail em out as soon as i get paid... lemme know! sunshine and smiles,
stiney (fire_faerey@yahoo.com)
- Thursday, January 10, 2002 at 19:11:55 (EST)
wow, i was just thinking about posting to see if anyone could trade or b&p me the 30th anniversary also... i'm at phishhook under "relic" or www.geocities.com/wisconsinrich if anyone could help me out. thanks
rich (rlambert@tds.net)
- Thursday, January 10, 2002 at 18:48:50 (EST)
hey kris b...are you going this weekend???..your e mail is down....peace..
TaperJones
- Thursday, January 10, 2002 at 18:30:48 (EST)
this one sounds most applicable...m2cd-Producer Pro 1.4....A demo version for $150..definitely cheaper than buying a programming converter box.Cool.
bfree
- Thursday, January 10, 2002 at 17:44:30 (EST)
Hey Brian,that's an excellent website! thanks....
bfree
- Thursday, January 10, 2002 at 17:38:53 (EST)
scotty,you need an mpeg burner.They run around $4-600 for a unit,with rca/s-link inputs...they make "vcd's" with standard cdrs...what are you working with? gimme an e.
bfree (midnightmonkey@snet.net)
- Thursday, January 10, 2002 at 17:35:14 (EST)
Hey Scotty, I am fairly sure that you will have to burn them as a data CD. There may be some tools at http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0,10151,0-10079-106-0-1-0,00.html?tag=st.dl.10012.dir.10079 that may help you organize them together as well. Regards, Brian
Brian (nayba@excite.com)
Natick, MA - Thursday, January 10, 2002 at 17:32:20 (EST)
Hi! Does anyone have or know where I can get the 30th Anniversary show from last year at the Hippodrome in Springfield MA? I don't have too much to trade as far as creek mp3's go, but I can offer to burn some CD's or do something else in return! Thanks, Brian
Brian (nayba@excite.com)
Natick, MA - Thursday, January 10, 2002 at 17:26:05 (EST)
hey everyone...is there any sort of special way to burn mpegs (video discs)? can i use an audio burn or do i have to make a data file or what...any advice would be great...thanks
scotty
- Thursday, January 10, 2002 at 15:34:47 (EST)
AKG makes a great sounding inexpensive microphone called the 391 (The blue lines). The real deal for a great price. They also come with interchangeable capsules, (Shotgun, cardiod,Hyper, omni
MZ
- Thursday, January 10, 2002 at 15:14:38 (EST)
I found the Naks on Ebay. The guy had a reserve price of $1000 for the Naks and the CP-4 guns. He listed them twice and never reached the reserve price. I was the high bidder each time with bids of about $600. I contacted him and he agreed to split up the deal and just sell me the mics for $500. I think he planned on getting $200 a piece for the guns! Anyway, I was checking Ebay about a week ago and someone had listed a brand new set of 300's. I don't know what he got for them. Note: Be careful because i was had once on Ebay and it was a $150 mistake. Lesson learned: shop and ask a lot of questions!
Valchy
- Thursday, January 10, 2002 at 10:55:20 (EST)
Hello Creek Community, Recently some folks were kind enough to grant me access to their ftp servers to download some Creek. This is my effort to express my gratitude to them and to pass on the music to those who are not yet able to download this great music. I would like to offer b+p for any of the following ElBuho 11/9/01 or 11/10/01, Max Creek, 7/7/01, 7/28/01, 7/12/97, 9/8/91
Kenny (links27@attbi.com)
East Hartford, Ct - Thursday, January 10, 2002 at 07:01:52 (EST)
Hello Creek Community, Recently some folks were kind enough to grant me access to their ftp servers to download some Creek. This is my effort to express my gratitude to them and to pass on the music to those who are not yet able to download this great music. I would like to offer b+p for any of the following ElBuho 11/9/01 or 11/10/01, Max Creek, 7/7/01, 7/28/01, 7/12/97, 9/8/91
Kenny (links27@attbi.com)
East Hartford, Ct - Thursday, January 10, 2002 at 07:01:33 (EST)
Wasn't it "CHiicckkkkeeennMMmmmmaaaaannnnnnn"?
fan
- Thursday, January 10, 2002 at 01:45:06 (EST)
BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRDMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaAAAAAAAN!
remember that cartoon?
- Wednesday, January 09, 2002 at 18:34:15 (EST)
the senn 441's are good mics
sk
- Wednesday, January 09, 2002 at 17:25:44 (EST)
myself an' birdman actually patched outta Al's sennheisers that nite at lupo's... 421's i believe... thought the tapes came out really nicely myself... an' i've used bruce's nak 300's quite a bit as well... no complaints w/ them... valchy where did ya find those naks for such short money?... i would love to acquire some real mics of my own...
LSun
- Wednesday, January 09, 2002 at 16:56:22 (EST)
hehehe.. its funny because i've actually seen headphones marketed as being "digital" but theres no such thing.
funkyzen
- Wednesday, January 09, 2002 at 16:15:48 (EST)
ah say ah say it's a joke suhn
stretch
- Wednesday, January 09, 2002 at 16:05:34 (EST)
digital speakers? sound waves are analog.. your ears don't work digitally
funkyzen
- Wednesday, January 09, 2002 at 12:57:43 (EST)
i'm holding out for digital speakers.
stretch
- Wednesday, January 09, 2002 at 12:39:07 (EST)
steve, what the heck would you use to playback 96k or higher sampled music?
john
- Wednesday, January 09, 2002 at 10:00:16 (EST)
hiya valchy! we're at the sheraton stop on by ! its not just the mics you use, it's how you point them!
stretch
- Wednesday, January 09, 2002 at 09:54:26 (EST)
sk, I believe the birdman uses Nak 300's. I chatted with him a few times before purchasing my mics (the 300's). My recording at Northern Lights turned out great with the 300's. I bought my set of three for $500.00. All other good mic prices are practically untouchable. Not to mention the cost of powering the mics. A CM300 runs on one battery ($8). A friend of mine runs his batteries for a year at a time and tapes twice as many shows as I do. I agree with you that the 700's are better mics and also have stealth capabilities, but good luck finding a set.
Valchy
- Wednesday, January 09, 2002 at 08:50:41 (EST)
...hey zappa...that is a nice piece of equipment you have...just went to order a mixer on-line and the site was messed up...
TaperJones
- Tuesday, January 08, 2002 at 23:49:53 (EST)
ahh strech just buy the Alesis Master link 9600 Hard Drive recorder you can get them for around a grand it records up to 24 bit 96k two track granted though this is not a portable it's more of a studio machine.It's about the size of a regular home cd player. And can do so much more than a dat.. Check it out..The Music Is Bliss
zappa
- Tuesday, January 08, 2002 at 22:32:02 (EST)
I am glad to hear that there will be consistent auds to accompany sbd tapes...like last years(?) Brewfest,no tapes circulated due to the board crapping out....I agree on the 24 bit;the 16 bit just seems to lack a certain fullness.I'm waiting for that too...Doesn't the technology of zappas new toy come close to those ideals? That's tapeless correct?...It also helps to have a good sound system to listen to the recording on.A boombox will pretty much play (an md and a dat) to cd the same way,due to the limited dynamics....I want to do another experiment sometime,which involves a board feed,and mics placed at the stage wired back to me,so as to get real time audience.As opposed to a matrix for accoustic ambience.Anyone with thoughts? I'd be glad to hear them.I would provide xlr cables.But I am currently using standard $30 mics from radio shack.I'd like to make an arrangement to use someones cardiodes for one show.The Room would work for the sake of my aud experiment(I can run the cables up along the supports to safely get to the rear.) E me if interested in hearing something different.Peace.
bfree (midnightmonkey@snet.net)
- Tuesday, January 08, 2002 at 22:11:22 (EST)
TaperJones, go all out. get an apogee A/D converter (badly needed, sounds so much better!) and neumanns...that is if you have 6-7k handy! but it sounds sooooo goood...yesssssss....haha....
stretch
- Tuesday, January 08, 2002 at 20:50:55 (EST)
i hear what you guys are saying.. there definitely is a difference, but you really need to be listening for quality rather than for the music to notice it. yeah pickle.. i definitely should have worded that differently as it wasn't someone who worked at sony or anything. it just seems that over time eventually dat will get phased out by newer, cheaper technologies as people don't buy them as much.. they already have a portable recorder that records in cd quality onto a portable hard drive.. i think stuff like that is the wave of the future, once they develop it more and make it reasonable to have removable media. who knows.. the future will tell but i'm sure it'll be amazing :)
funkyzen
- Tuesday, January 08, 2002 at 19:29:59 (EST)
...thanks sk...i have decided to make some changes to my taping habbits...I am getting mics so there is always an aud tape source for what ever the reason...
TaperJones
- Tuesday, January 08, 2002 at 19:20:14 (EST)
sign ups for the new Yonder Mountain tree being taken at Yondertree2001@aol.com. 5 discs of the NYE run in St Louis...sensational stuff. if you havent heard these guys yet, you really should....
mark (yondertree2001@aol.com)
- Tuesday, January 08, 2002 at 18:31:44 (EST)
well...md is good enough for most folks...but some of us are not most folks. sounds good or not, md is lossy...and you may not hear it, except on good headphones or a good stereo...and not to malign at all, but if i ever tried to trade an md source on the BUDD group i'd get the taper goons sent to my house. BUT, if it sounds good to you, and you are happy with it, that's really all that matters...my two things against DAT...still not the best medium (tape), and the algorithm/sampling rate is not nearly good enough for me, i'd like to see at least the 24-bit (which is starting to come out) 96KHz, but i'd really like to see 10x that sampling rate or 1GHz, something that more closely approximates what is under the sine wave...but i'll have to wait on that...
stretch
- Tuesday, January 08, 2002 at 18:16:47 (EST)
1st, where did you "hear" that Sony was phasing out DAT's?? Would like to know your source, because once again, you are full of shit and talking about shit you have no idea of. Second, you're telling me that a MD is better then a DAT when taped off the same board (or mics), same night?? With statements like that, is it any wonder that I (and i am sure many, many others), don't believe a single word you say??
Pickle
- Tuesday, January 08, 2002 at 15:13:36 (EST)
chekkit out pigpen.. its not really that bad :) http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk/minidisc/atrac.html
funkyzen
- Tuesday, January 08, 2002 at 14:26:52 (EST)
eh.. thats fine pigpen.. my shows sound good enough for me :) the price difference between md and dat just isn't worth it imho. besides.. sony is begining to phase out its dat's. it's not making any new decks because people buy more md's than dat's and that's what they're going to be focusing on. i dunno man.. i've had shows i've taped on md that sound better than shows taped on dat. i guess its just a matter of preference and $$$.
funkyzen
- Tuesday, January 08, 2002 at 14:22:44 (EST)
taper, got your phone message, the mics i use are beyers 201's, labins uses the beyers m 88's, the guy lsun taped out of, birdman, i think he uses the sennheiser 441's which are about the same as the beyers m 88's and better than the 201's, if you could find nak 700's those are some great mics, stay away from nak 300's, they were standard issue in GD early 80's then everyone realized that they sucked and they got different mics
sk
- Tuesday, January 08, 2002 at 13:50:06 (EST)
good one lsun, that guy is a total a-hole, you shoulda heard him yelling at me friday night!!!
sk
- Tuesday, January 08, 2002 at 13:42:49 (EST)
well said pig... compression's a real drag... if you ask me... evah hear that a-hole darren go on about his awesome mini-discs?... kid needs a 2 by 4 dope slap...
LSun
- Tuesday, January 08, 2002 at 13:00:48 (EST)
shows from DAT funkymike? no offense but i think we should keep the compressed formats together.. minidisc to mp3.. heh :) but to answer yer question... no i dont have a server, i ran one at home for a bit but furthur seems to be letting me get a lot of music to the people so ive been using that lately... at work i just use this pipe to upload, setting up an ftp at work would be a big nono ;)
pigpen
- Tuesday, January 08, 2002 at 11:00:04 (EST)
i'm officially calling the taper police on myself.. i just found 15 unlabeled discs in my car. ppen.... so do you have a site people can upload to? i don't have a fast connection at home so i can't download but I can convert shows over to shn and throw them on a server by abusing my fast school connecttion
funkyzen
- Tuesday, January 08, 2002 at 10:48:26 (EST)
i also have mc01-05-12 from the CO. Brewery which i havent seen on many servers...
pigpen
- Tuesday, January 08, 2002 at 10:42:26 (EST)
SITE ADMINS- I have Creek SHNs of 9/8/01 Wormtown Festival, 9/19/01 Living Room and Woody's Roadhouse 4/8/95... If you want any or all uploaded just send me an email with login information... Im leaving today and I wont be back till after the Upstate Shows, but I can start today if you get back to me before 5....
pigpen (pigpen@ilovecrayons.com)
- Tuesday, January 08, 2002 at 09:39:42 (EST)
just so everyone's knows, that wasn't me below, in fact most of the posts attributed by me on this side aren't by me, just some gutless, yellow poster who is afraid to post his own name
sk
- Tuesday, January 08, 2002 at 08:53:53 (EST)
no problem stiney. if shake ever gets a hold of that matrix of NYE that is floating around i'd realllly like a copy of that because mine came out wikked bad. otherwise.. whatever.. gimme something good :) btw.. are you working right now and do you wanna go see mtn of venus at a brothers and sisters gathering tomorrow?
funkyzen
- Tuesday, January 08, 2002 at 08:01:41 (EST)
I am king of the soundboard and don't you forget it!!
sk
- Monday, January 07, 2002 at 21:15:01 (EST)
i am looking for dogpatch. i want to nail his head to the floor.
massed
- Monday, January 07, 2002 at 20:01:17 (EST)
Did any of you know that the main reason Santa is so jolly is because he knows where all the bad girls live.
santa's dissed elf
- Monday, January 07, 2002 at 18:52:05 (EST)
hey funkyzen... while you're spinning that show for skeets.... would you please make me a copy too? e me for details/trade wants/etc... thanks,
stiney
- Monday, January 07, 2002 at 18:47:25 (EST)
Hey taper gremlin Good one! I resemble those remarks. Now I am a hipocrate too I posted this.
kirk
- Monday, January 07, 2002 at 17:21:38 (EST)
i thought we were going to get a snow storm, all I got was a > PASADENA MUDSLIDE
sk
- Monday, January 07, 2002 at 16:38:09 (EST)
I mean't Skeets not SKeets....don't want to be confused with SK
Skeets
- Monday, January 07, 2002 at 15:54:59 (EST)
cool FZ....I'd appreciate it....SKeets
Skeets
- Monday, January 07, 2002 at 15:54:13 (EST)
skeets.. i can have that show on disc for you by the next room show. given that i can actually find my copy in my mess that some call a car :oP
funkyzen
- Monday, January 07, 2002 at 15:44:36 (EST)
anybody got that last Living Room show on disc yet???....Got stuff to trade or can send discs....Gotta have "The Other One"!!
Skeets (Skeets37@aol.com)
- Monday, January 07, 2002 at 10:58:43 (EST)
hey man how is CT i am down range in kuwait i was know if you could sendme a copy of the creek at the augora i have no tapes over here thank you a solder in kuwait
francis orcutt (francis.orcutt@jaber.af.mil)
- Monday, January 07, 2002 at 01:44:19 (EST)
Carl, Thanks for coming over. Sorry I fell out. Tough Holiday for me. The set up will remain the same. Hopefully that will help production. Keep smiling,,,,,,,,EP
ep
- Sunday, January 06, 2002 at 23:19:16 (EST)
listen, KIRK...someday you too will want to talk about your sex life, your crapped-out car and your dead-end job. so quit yer bitchin'!
taper forum gremlin
hehehehehe!, - Sunday, January 06, 2002 at 23:10:29 (EST)
For trade 12-17-81 90 min- Willow Tree,Dust on My Saddle, Big River, Band Will Be Playing On A Saturday Nite, Playing In The Band, God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen, Fire On The Mountian, I Know You Rider, U.S. Blues. Need old and new. Kirk
Kirk (Kluthgren@aol.com)
- Sunday, January 06, 2002 at 22:38:39 (EST)
Is this a chat room or a taper section? Have Creek Shows 1975-2001 for trade. I dont want to here about your car, your weekend, or troubles! LETS TRADE SHOWS!
Kirk (Kluthgren@aol.com)
ct - Sunday, January 06, 2002 at 22:01:14 (EST)
Thanks ep. One more down, many more to go
Carl
- Sunday, January 06, 2002 at 20:40:44 (EST)
no....you taper-bitches...that was me!!!!
sk
- Sunday, January 06, 2002 at 19:05:03 (EST)
sorry buzz that was not me, i know you would never do that
sk
- Sunday, January 06, 2002 at 17:43:07 (EST)
BUZZ, stop posting as me!!!
sk
- Sunday, January 06, 2002 at 16:39:49 (EST)
no more mr. nice guy, i was the hunter that killed bambis mother
sk
- Sunday, January 06, 2002 at 16:31:43 (EST)
I need to let off some steam, must be that camel toe soup I had for lunch
sk
- Sunday, January 06, 2002 at 15:51:40 (EST)
sk blowing off some hot air again i see same as it ever was same as it ever was
huhhuhhuh
- Sunday, January 06, 2002 at 15:29:28 (EST)
what the hell is going on here? leave for a day and this is what happens? this is really me, my last post here was at 16:46:51 on saturday........and me apologize to taperjones? just the opposite folks, the guy was beside himself with grief last night, he was a humbled, beaten bitter person, and he thinks i was behind his demise, but truth be said, he dug his own grave, and he doesn't even have "all the shows" the guy who claims to want "all the shows" comes to dr. juice sans his tapedeck!!!
sk
- Sunday, January 06, 2002 at 14:40:26 (EST)
and don`t forget I lie alot
sk
- Sunday, January 06, 2002 at 12:42:24 (EST)
but now that i am here, i feel the time has come to stand up for whats right and let everyone know i feel bad about some of the things i have said about taperjones.me and him have known each other for over 22 years and i know i have a kind of a rough humor to myself, but thats me.but in the last few months i realise that my joking is begining to be taken seriously and i didnt mean for it to get like this.i am real sorry taperjones and will also stop posting as you and tell the few others to stop too.i hope this clears the air here.now back to what i do best.talk about me on the other side.
sk
- Sunday, January 06, 2002 at 12:17:42 (EST)
thas not my post
sk
- Sunday, January 06, 2002 at 12:17:05 (EST)
I`m so depressed, nobody even noticed my missle-toe belt buckle last night
sk
- Sunday, January 06, 2002 at 11:00:01 (EST)
...ahhhhhhhh...it finaly hit me tonight that I have allllllll the shows right here...off to see this dr.j...
TaperJones
- Saturday, January 05, 2002 at 20:40:25 (EST)
I'll tell ya, that was a tough holiday. All's well though. C & TJ. Are you guy willing to go or should I look beyond. Either way, you guys are true brothers. I just think that these things are best amongst family. Truth, Character, and dignity are hard to find. Keep smiling,,,,,,,,EP
ep
- Saturday, January 05, 2002 at 20:09:14 (EST)
I'll tell ya, that was a tough holiday. All's well though. C & TJ. Are you guy willing to go or should I look beyond. Either way, you guys are true brothers. I just think that these things are best amongst family. Truth, Character, and dignity are hard to find. Keep smiling,,,,,,,,EP
ep
- Saturday, January 05, 2002 at 20:09:12 (EST)
fryin will be getting ahold of that matrix in about 5 hours
sk
- Saturday, January 05, 2002 at 16:46:51 (EST)
hey now... al an' birdman... a pleasure tapin' w/ you guys last nite... fryin' let me know if you can get a hold of the NYE matrix... should be able to borrow shake's M1 to spin it...
LSun
- Saturday, January 05, 2002 at 16:42:30 (EST)
ahh, Scotty... sen far too much of that for my taste... sorry that had to happen to ya, shake and courtney drove 2 of our friends home once and our friends' dad had to come get his daugther out of the car. :( from what I hear it was not pretty... tjones, you have mail... ;)
stiney
- Saturday, January 05, 2002 at 11:23:15 (EST)
Anyone have or know a friend who has a pair of Nakamichi CP-4 shotgun capsules sitting on a shelf in hiding? I'd be ineterested in purchasing them to put them to good use.
Valchy
- Saturday, January 05, 2002 at 10:25:20 (EST)
hey now...you too stiney..i just spent 15 min. getting 2 of my friends the f- out of my car...farmies...jeez...i slapped my boy's face for 5 minutes straight and he never moved..oh well home, home for the strange...hehehe
scotty
- Saturday, January 05, 2002 at 04:20:25 (EST)
Hey Dogpatch, the burning Spear and his burning band sound just fine, I listened to them while buzzing around lovely downtown woostah the other day... ;) thanks again!! Oh, and Scotty, nice to meet you tonight! :) sunshine and smiles,
stiney
- Saturday, January 05, 2002 at 03:17:13 (EST)
I am gonna wait till the dust clears...then ask really nice for a trade for the mix version of new years.Because i like that kinda thing.:)
bfree
- Friday, January 04, 2002 at 19:12:42 (EST)
...you ever notice the only one on this page who doesnt post about taping or trading is sk or sk posting as taperjones...hmmmmmm...
time to change sk
- Friday, January 04, 2002 at 19:06:46 (EST)
good to hear, stiney....thank you too! let me know what you think of burning spear.....
dogpatch
- Friday, January 04, 2002 at 18:09:30 (EST)
Tans, an interesting question in that you're technically going "back" from XP. Given the hardware requirements of XP, though (based on readings), I would think you'd have no problem installing an older OS like Win2K.
JahWood
- Friday, January 04, 2002 at 16:49:04 (EST)
Hey, pigpen, let's talk Zappa here too! And I'll be happy to assist stretchy with distribution...
JahWood (jwood_jw@yahoo.com)
- Friday, January 04, 2002 at 16:47:36 (EST)
Is it a big deal to take one Windows off and put another one on?
Tans
- Friday, January 04, 2002 at 16:15:10 (EST)
Thanks guys, Amy got a new laptop with windows XP on it, and I know it sucks, it's like Windows made by Disney, all the crap on there they have to make it easier actually makes it harder to use, and if I couldn't discover that myself the jackoffs in the etree IRC surely let me know...I'll try that properties thing...thanks
Tans
- Friday, January 04, 2002 at 16:14:00 (EST)
to run things under different modes... right click the app and go to properties, there should be a tab that says compatibility or something...
pigpen
- Friday, January 04, 2002 at 09:30:12 (EST)
Tans- a friend told me that you have to run mkwact in win2k emulation mode in XP to get it to do Wav>SHN.... how you do that i dont know, dont use XP :) oh wait SHN>Wav.... whats it say?
pigpen
- Friday, January 04, 2002 at 09:29:29 (EST)
pigpen, talk to me about the zappa!
stretch (stephenr@snet.net)
- Friday, January 04, 2002 at 09:08:47 (EST)
as far as i know they haven't developed SHN software for XP yet...
funkyzen
- Friday, January 04, 2002 at 08:53:03 (EST)
tans- if you ever have any comp problems call me at home..... and i got a buncha theads shows if yer interested.... man i got a bunch of untracked zappa too that if i had the time i could do a lot with, i havent even had a chance to check it out =\
pigpen
- Friday, January 04, 2002 at 08:50:21 (EST)
hey skeets.. if you can't find that on disc, i can put your tapes to disc and try and take the hissss and pops out. i did it to a creek w/ mike gordon tape from club toast from 97 and it came out prettty good :)
funkyzen
- Friday, January 04, 2002 at 08:29:45 (EST)
I know this is a longshot but does anybody have 9/8/83 Dead at Red Rocks??...I got it on tape but was looking for a crisper copy on disc..Thx, Skeets
Skeets (Skeets37@aol.com)
- Friday, January 04, 2002 at 08:15:00 (EST)
Anybody know about this burning software called "B's Recorder Gold"? I can't seem to burn anything DAO, it's not my shn's because I've burned the same ones before with Easy CD Creator and they've been fine...also, can I get MKWact to work on Windows XP? And if not, is there something else that will work? Rokkstar, I just downloaded that Talking Heads from you, shweeeet! Thanks in advance...peace
Tans (mtansley@mail.com)
- Thursday, January 03, 2002 at 21:20:16 (EST)
me and my rubber girl -- we never argue. three holes, no waiting.
wizlit
oh my gawd, - Thursday, January 03, 2002 at 19:46:40 (EST)
i got a girl with little rubber head..she comes out every night just before i go to bed
sk
- Thursday, January 03, 2002 at 18:21:38 (EST)
Does anyone have a copy of the Northern Lights show from 12/22? I'd love to get a copy if so, have a few creek shows to trade for & other bands also. Thanks!
Andy (andyn@aquaticgroup.com)
Albany, N.Y. - Thursday, January 03, 2002 at 17:57:22 (EST)
Hey uj, do you have room at your new place for some more Bobble-Head Dolls? I just received 10 gross more from my producers in Wisconsin.
TaperJones
- Thursday, January 03, 2002 at 17:19:27 (EST)
Taper, ya know the most important things in moving have to be set up first! Now, where should we put those amps???......
uj
Flicklessville, CT - Thursday, January 03, 2002 at 16:48:49 (EST)
My goal = half the shows, and sell lots & lots of TJ Bobble Head Dolls and Action Figures, look for the TJ Valentine's Day Special Edition Bobble Head Doll, available for sale within 2 weeks, limited quantities available
TaperJones
- Thursday, January 03, 2002 at 14:41:27 (EST)
wow, another creeker in wormtown... go figure... john, are ya going to the Tammany Club tonite? Bruce Mandaro Band w/ Mark Mercier on keys! :) Hey Dogpatch.... i got your package the other day... thanks so much!! I'll get yours out soon, still got some sewing to do... ;)
stiney
- Thursday, January 03, 2002 at 10:33:20 (EST)
hey krispy.. i'm always down for trading for new creek.. you didn't leave your email though to get in touch with you soo.. email me :)
funkyzen (phunkyzen@prodigy.net)
- Thursday, January 03, 2002 at 09:49:17 (EST)
Hello Mr.Pickle Just a little not to you if your out there. Im' going to make the gig at Lupos' I pray that you have had the time to get those items coppied. Feel free to call work (508) 860-1216 thanks John Fitz
john fitz
worm town, ma - Thursday, January 03, 2002 at 09:28:26 (EST)


- Thursday, January 03, 2002 at 01:08:20 (EST)
Yes that is my hand slapping you little T.
ep
- Wednesday, January 02, 2002 at 23:58:08 (EST)
Have you run out of tape? Call Carl, call Terrapin!!! 30yrs end soon. EP (being a pain in the ass)
ep (ep)
- Wednesday, January 02, 2002 at 22:28:01 (EST)
hey critta...i don't see no email addy....here's mine for the tradin..lemme know...
Scotty (Scamc@aol.com)
- Wednesday, January 02, 2002 at 22:06:56 (EST)
...hey uj...good to see camp uj making its move...can't wait for opening night...who's playing...hey stiney...same right back...I missed that moment with sooooo many people...that was right around the time I broke the news of how many shows I had...
TaperJones
- Wednesday, January 02, 2002 at 21:58:12 (EST)
happy new year tapers!!!! keep spinning... sunshine and smiles,
stiney
- Wednesday, January 02, 2002 at 19:38:52 (EST)
Taper, give a call over here soon as ya can....
uj
- Wednesday, January 02, 2002 at 18:37:14 (EST)
Happy New Years tapers, how about a fresh trade with this here jonesin freek to start off the year's tape trading karma? All my list is thanx to some of you, but I bet I might have somethin you all don't, Creek or otherwise, so give me an email for my list if you can help this ol Chritta out. Until I get a better connection through this thing I still gotta trade the ol' fashion way. Thanx anybody! Extremely apreciated!!!!
Chrispy Chritta
Ri - Wednesday, January 02, 2002 at 18:22:45 (EST)
so, you need a new name on here? ok my new name is "money shot"
sk
- Wednesday, January 02, 2002 at 13:54:38 (EST)

thats not new


zippy
- Wednesday, January 02, 2002 at 13:45:29 (EST)


oh and i like this new you need a name to post on the tapers forum thing.... but it has a broken link, FYI
pigpen
- Wednesday, January 02, 2002 at 13:22:26 (EST)
ive got an eye on you, baby..
pigpen
- Wednesday, January 02, 2002 at 13:22:03 (EST)
But Taper, I had my eye on you and you were hitting on every young chick there, you'd offer them a TJ Bobble-Head Doll and a TJ Action Figure if they went home with you, but alas, you went home to that nut-job you live with.
Militant Dude
- Wednesday, January 02, 2002 at 09:59:49 (EST)
I Write The Songs > Mandy > Can't Smile Without You > Copa Cabana > Looks Like We Made It.........(sk's house 1981)
Barry
- Wednesday, January 02, 2002 at 07:57:48 (EST)
you say there was a buzz on the tape!?!?........ i think there's a buzz in my ears
:-)
- Wednesday, January 02, 2002 at 02:10:18 (EST)
...mature as in age...she was older...
TaperJones
- Tuesday, January 01, 2002 at 22:41:16 (EST)
Dogpatch...I tried to return your email re: Dead/Creek trade but it bounced back as a bad address. Try again.
Drumess (lauriepw@earthlink.net)
- Tuesday, January 01, 2002 at 20:15:52 (EST)
so I'm not mature?
Celeste
- Tuesday, January 01, 2002 at 20:15:44 (EST)
...sk...that was bri's girlfriend...the girl I'm talking about is quite mature...as for pyle...he is not anybodies men...he is a "virus"...please dont confuse the two...I also was livng in florida most of the time he was screwing things up...as for the rich matter...The Taper Police have been briefed on the matter...and sk...hows your neighbor dealing with the news...lol
TaperJones
- Tuesday, January 01, 2002 at 15:46:00 (EST)

Happy New Year!
creekhed
- Tuesday, January 01, 2002 at 14:46:56 (EST)


marquee scrolldelay="0" style="font-family: Malibu LET; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold; font-color: RED; border-style: solid; border-width: 3">HAPPY NEW YEAR!
creekhed
- Tuesday, January 01, 2002 at 14:45:57 (EST)
taperjones, when they come on to me that way i just lick my eyebrow and see their reaction, good god though, that girl was young enough to be your daughter, have you no ethics or sanctity amongst the tapers, as for pyle, he's one of your guys, he is a complete moron, and remember this, that a-hole said some terrible things to rich 2 short years ago, i'll never forget that, gomer pyle is a creep and he's jst a bad vibe.....i think the taper police should look into this matter further.
sk
- Tuesday, January 01, 2002 at 14:20:16 (EST)
...this woman who was hanging around the Taper Section last night turned to me and said..." I have 1 Max Creek show"...I looked at her and said..."I have 770 Max Creek shows"...thats when she started kissing me...
TaperJones
- Tuesday, January 01, 2002 at 13:56:21 (EST)
...hey...gomer really is an idiot...I was listening to last nights show and when I switched the main split out the board he said we had a "buzz"...when we didnt...the signal just jumped up cause I fixed the problem...and he had headphones...ughhhhh...
TaperJones
- Tuesday, January 01, 2002 at 13:54:45 (EST)
sk...I'll hook you up bro...I got a Manilow show from Red Rocks 76 with Mandy into Copa Cabana into I write the Songs BACK INTO Mandy...How SWEEEEEET IT IS !!!!!!!!
creekhed
- Tuesday, January 01, 2002 at 13:26:05 (EST)
Yeah sk, I got that...
sTan
- Tuesday, January 01, 2002 at 07:03:23 (EST)
send me some mail
Tans (mtansley@mail.com)
- Tuesday, January 01, 2002 at 07:02:40 (EST)


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